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hank jr

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Hi all, ive been saving for a Nissan Navara for using WFP but after some suggestions made on here about them...now im not sure that is a good idea anymore.

Does anyone else prefer a truck over a van?

Never mind 2 x insurance  and 2 x road tax and 2 x MOT.


Don Kee

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 05:38:48 pm »
What size tank you putting in and how much gear?

Lwb DCiV any good to you?

You could get a truck to work in fairness, I'd go along the lines of a Hilux (bulletproof)

Alot of the reliability issues and standard of van will depend on how much you throw at a wagon i.e if you bought new, the nivarra problems become redundant (warranty)


Added - there is a third option, a chap around here uses a trailer

robbo333

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 06:36:51 pm »
I'm with Don, it depends on how much gear you have. As I mentioned in your other thread, I used to have a Hilux Intimidator and it was great, but I wasn't window cleaning at that time and I, personally, wouldn't have used it for cleaning unless I was tradding bungalows. I've got a 350 litre tank in a Ford Connect and I now need something bigger, so i'm looking for a Toyota Hiace. If you just do basic domestic stuff and it's local, so you can refil from home if you need to, keep it simple with no trad gear, gutter pole stuff etc, then I am sure it can be done. There are a couple of guys who use pickups on here, hopefully they can help.
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Solar Steve

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 10:21:16 pm »
Set up correctly, a 4x4 can be a brilliant tool. I'd go for an L200. We have two and they are bulletproof.

Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 11:12:12 pm »
I like my ranger mk2 . Its the super cab version so is a bit of a compromise re seating ( fold down rear seats ) but the load bed is slightly longer over a double cab. Have a countryman hard top canopy and a custom 500 L tank, mounted proloc reel, diy pump/battery box, 45 ft pole , backpack, folding ladder and trad gear all in the back - no worries  ;)

I prefer it to a van now and would not change back. The height for a mounted reel is perfect, can work from it without dropping tailgate and setting up/packing away at each job is a doddle especially with a tubeless pole set up. I find it far quicker and efficient to work from than my old van ever was. :)

AuRavelling79

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 08:15:55 am »
If you really really need a 4 x 4 like Soupy in the wilds of Scotland or the farm tracks of Wales then get a Land Rover.

If not and you want a large enough tank and room to swing a cat then get a crew cab van.

If you want a truck because you think it looks good then get that. But don't pretend to yourself that you need to.

In general terms a van is best. IMHO!  :D
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 08:43:36 am »
lease a brand new van and use it exclusively for work and buy a car for leisure. ;D

this is what ive done.it makes things so much easier.
price higher/work harder!

hank jr

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 09:16:43 am »
If you really really need a 4 x 4 like Soupy in the wilds of Scotland or the farm tracks of Wales then get a Land Rover.

If not and you want a large enough tank and room to swing a cat then get a crew cab van.

If you want a truck because you think it looks good then get that. But don't pretend to yourself that you need to.

In general terms a van is best. IMHO!  :D

OK I agree.....I don't NEED to get a 4 x 4 but i m sure it would be less expensive having one vehicle rather than 2.

Thanks for your info 👍

Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 09:40:11 am »
Agree that I don't need a 4x4. But needing a 2 in 1 - work vehicle/family car, the main advantage for me was a clean and tidy cab with a separate and isolated truck bed with liner - designed to be exposed to the environment. I no longer have to worry about the odd spillage or a damp and smelly van interior  ;)  I suppose though, that there are crew cab vans out there that have fitted bulkheads behind the rear seats thus still keeping the cab separate ?

8weekly

Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 12:43:09 pm »
I work out of a Ranger. I much prefer working out of a van. That said, I'm sure that the Ranger could be better set up for window cleaning, but it's only a temporary thing. Hopefully.

mufcglen

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 12:49:09 pm »
i work out of a crewcab transit swb, got a 650 tank and all my wfp and gutter clearing gear in the back ok, plenty of roomin the front for the kids when the wife cant pick them up in the car plus i keep all my footballs and training gear in there too!

Don Simon

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2017, 01:51:28 pm »
If it was a choice between truck or kids it aould be truck every time,  mine have left home so I would say thet !
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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2017, 05:38:22 pm »
Personally I find it much easier to have a separate vehicle for work where I can just leave all my work gear, I would also think a van is generally better suited to a wfp set up.

duncan h

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2017, 06:36:10 pm »
I use a Transit with rear seats. tank,  dog cage and LOADS of space
We go on holiday in it. I sterilise tank and fill with tap water. You pole to wash dogs and kids when at beach. Throw all luggage in back. I can even fit a dingy on roof

AuRavelling79

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2017, 07:25:49 pm »
If you really really need a 4 x 4 like Soupy in the wilds of Scotland or the farm tracks of Wales then get a Land Rover.

If not and you want a large enough tank and room to swing a cat then get a CREW CAB van.

If you want a truck because you think it looks good then get that. But don't pretend to yourself that you need to.

In general terms a van is best. IMHO!  :D

OK I agree.....I don't NEED to get a 4 x 4 but i m sure it would be less expensive having one vehicle rather than 2.

Thanks for your info 👍

Well re-read my post. Especially the bit in red. ONE VEHICLE. See?  ;)
It's a game of three halves!

Don Kee

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2017, 08:21:34 pm »
Like Gold, that's why I suggested a DCiV (Dual Cab in Van)

Two rows of seats with a bulkhead, and load space at the back

The only issue is that if you get one with a bulkhead, you wont have as much load space as a normal swb, but some makes do have retractable rear seats

EandM

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2017, 08:31:08 pm »
I work out of a Ranger. I much prefer working out of a van. That said, I'm sure that the Ranger could be better set up for window cleaning, but it's only a temporary thing. Hopefully.

I've worked out of my Ranger for five years and I could never go back to a van.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2017, 10:34:00 pm »
If you really really need a 4 x 4 like Soupy in the wilds of Scotland or the farm tracks of Wales then get a Land Rover.

If not and you want a large enough tank and room to swing a cat then get a crew cab van.

If you want a truck because you think it looks good then get that. But don't pretend to yourself that you need to.

In general terms a van is best. IMHO!  :D

OK I agree.....I don't NEED to get a 4 x 4 but i m sure it would be less expensive having one vehicle rather than 2.

Thanks for your info 👍
depends on what size tank and how many miles you do , we have a new ranger and its not the best on fuel and of transit custerm way better on fuel by about 16 miles to the gallen  so if you do loads of miles then stay away from the trucks and buy a factory fitted van

Mike #1

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2017, 07:05:34 pm »
I have used a L200 for almost 6 years now with a 400ltr tank working as a single wfp operator IMHO most van owners have more space than they need unless doing every add on service going and those that use smaller swb  vans near enough max out their payloads on a daily basis = some serious potential issues .

Don't under any circumstances go for a Nissan Navara as they are pile of **** with chassis snapping in half they are cheap for a reason .

I use a truck because I don't need 2 motors and my truck is far better than any van on the road in terms of build quality, payload and overall usability for both business and personal use .

Tony dunmall

Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2017, 08:41:51 pm »
I used cars for years

Citroen c-crosser late 30-41 mph
Honda CR-V   44plus mpg
Citizen berlingo car new shape late 40s
All these had a 350 tank hose reel one pole 22 extreme with 2 sections to 35 worked light £285-350 earning potential plus comfort
My favourite c-crosser

Then a transporter T5 Kombi late 30mpg
500 litre and hot water system really loved it just utvout grew its needs

Recently changed down to new transit connect ltd , Basically as we don't camp much anymore

Plus I work with my daughter now so need a van

If I worked alone it would be back to car,
Possibly go for the Mitsubishi phew electric or a Volvo XC60 or something similar

I only currently do 2-3 days a week so everything is removable if needed

I do however have other vans on the road, but still decide to work whilst I can

My thoughts are that cars are good to use but you have to be meticulous in a simplistic approach, obsessively tidy and minamlistic with equipment