[Jays Window Cleaning]

Are the tubeless kits Are they any good I'm thinking tubeless with uni valve what do you guys think? Pros and cons

[richard groves]

I use both and would never go back.
Whilst the uni valve seems very popular on here there are mixed opinions to the tubeless set up with many labeling it a gimmick and an unnecessary faff.
It depends how you work I suppose.
I think its great.

Positives for me :

one pole - sections easily added and removed as needed, cost effective for a sole trader. I have a 45 ft pole but typically use with 4 sections removed - takes seconds to add or remove them.

easy maintenance and cleaning

tidy dry  van

I use a back pack for backs of terraced houses, easier and cleaner whilst walking through houses to have a coiled hose in a bag disconnected from the pole - no drips, clean and dry.

[dave f]

got rid of both univalve ok at first after a while having to  tug harshly 2 or 3 times to get it started  trying to get the rectus fitting connected can be a pain faffing about.so went back using aquadapter until spares run out bring back the aquadapter

[Jays Window Cleaning]

Barry Scott is that a telescopic pole you use or a modular pole ? I've seen videos on utube on the tubeless kits but i can't get my head round how how it works ?

Dave F I thought it's pole hose either side with our clips . Surely that wouldn't happen ?

[mufcglen]

if you mean the hoseless kits when you say tubeless then i wouldnt buy the kit i would recommend making your own its simple enough to do and a guide on here too.
i made mine nearly 2 years ago and never looked back, cant say theres many advantages or makes you work faster but nicer carrying a pole round with no hose when finished,makes the back of the van neater.
cant think of anything else but i just prefer it myself to the other way

[Smurf]

All my poles are tubeless as use the pole hose on the outside. Cost bugger all to convert them too lol

[Dry Clean]

Barry Scott is that a telescopic pole you use or a modular pole ? I've seen videos on utube on the tubeless kits but i can't get my head round how how it works ?

Dave F I thought it's pole hose either side with our clips . Surely that wouldn't happen ?

You have a hose connector that sits at the bottom of your closed pole, as you extend the pole the connector stays where it is
but is narrow enough as to let the pole sections slide past it, so with the pole fully extended it will be sitting just below section one.
Close the pole  you can then unclip the hose and remove a section of your telescopic pole just by loosening off the clamps,
it just means your not restricted from removing the section by the hose tail, to be honest I prefer just to have a second longer pole less faffing about and if anything happens I have a back up pole.

[richard groves]

Yes, telescopic.
There is pole hose from the brush to the bottom of the inside of first number 1 section of pole with a male rectus fitting on end. The remaining few meters of pole hose that would usually come out of the pole are connected to the reel hose by a barbed joiner and reeled up along with it. Its connected to the pole by a female rectus fitting just inside the base of the pole. A plastic sleeve enables quick disconnection and protects the fitting from damage and prolongs its life. When you extend the pole, hose is fed off the reel up inside the pole .

[Smurf]

It still confuses me the name "tubeless pole" when there still is a tube inside the pole all be it a wee bit shorter. lol

[richard groves]

Some people will always regard it as a faff and an expense.
But it took me half hour to fit and forget and was considerably cheaper by a few hundred quid than having to buy 2 or 3 poles, brushes, goosenecks, hoses and connections. If you are a one man band you can only use one of these at a time anyways. IMO the pro's of having such an adaptable set up outway the con's of which I cannot really see any.

Tubeless is just a name for the concept - in reality and use it isn't exactly but it confuses some people to the extent that they can't get over that minor detail.

[Jays Window Cleaning]

Yes, telescopic.
There is pole hose from the brush to the bottom of the inside of first number 1 section of pole with a male rectus fitting on end. The remaining few meters of pole hose that would usually come out of the pole are connected to the reel hose by a barbed joiner and reeled up along with it. Its connected to the pole by a female rectus fitting just inside the base of the pole. A plastic sleeve enables quick disconnection and protects the fitting from damage and prolongs its life. When you extend the pole, hose is fed off the reel up inside the pole .

Cheers Barry this was very helpful . I want my van looking tidy inside . And i finally understand how it works .

[richard groves]

The only thing I would add is that with some poles, certainly Gardiners , the number 1 section pole needs to be a few cm's shorter. This is so when the female rectus connection is fitted it sits proud with the bottom of the pole and does not get damaged when pole is fully collapsed. The kit comes supplied with a spacer  that you put at top of pole after the goose neck to allow this ( a few wraps of stop tape would do the same thing ) or you can cut a bit off the bottom if you don't mind doing that. I decided to cut a bit off so the closed length stayed the same.

[Jays Window Cleaning]

Thanks for that info . What pole did you cut ? I don't know if I'd want to attempt cutting a gardiners extreme pole . A slx or clx yeah

[richard groves]

Thanks for that info . What pole did you cut ? I don't know if I'd want to attempt cutting a gardiners extreme pole . A slx or clx yeah

A supermax but it is 5+ years old.

[Jays Window Cleaning]

Arr that's not to bad . Would you want to saw a bit off of a £500 -£600 pole lol

[Splash & dash]

You don't need to cut the pole down you just put a spacer on the top of the pole it does increase the pole length by about 60 mm if I remember correctly

[trippyboy]

For you guys that are tubeless i would like to ask how your pole hose reacts to being tugged at from the reel as you initially pull your hose out?
Does it have an affect on the Union fitting of the reel hose to the pole hose?
Doe's it take a wee bit longer to  reel out because of the extra hose?
How quickly can you connect pole hose to the base of your pole, is it a faffle?

[tlwcs]

For you guys that are tubeless i would like to ask how your pole hose reacts to being tugged at from the reel as you initially pull your hose out?
Does it have an affect on the Union fitting of the reel hose to the pole hose?
Doe's it take a wee bit longer to  reel out because of the extra hose?
How quickly can you connect pole hose to the base of your pole, is it a faffle?

It's not connected trippy
I walk the hose to the furthest window allowing extra for the extension, walk back, get pole and secure van
No faff on the connection or uncoupling .
I only use 100m of pole hose, the blue Exceed stuff
Tony

[trippyboy]

For you guys that are tubeless i would like to ask how your pole hose reacts to being tugged at from the reel as you initially pull your hose out?
Does it have an affect on the Union fitting of the reel hose to the pole hose?
Doe's it take a wee bit longer to  reel out because of the extra hose?
How quickly can you connect pole hose to the base of your pole, is it a faffle?

It's not connected trippy
I walk the hose to the furthest window allowing extra for the extension, walk back, get pole and secure van
No faff on the connection or uncoupling .
I only use 100m of pole hose, the blue Exceed stuff
Tony

Im not quite sure what your saying here mate. You saying the pole hose isn't permanently connected to your microbore/minibore? Iam aware there will be a section of pole hose permanently remaining inside your pole roughly the same length as your pole and this will connect to a longer length of pole hose on the outside of the pole, so i take it the longer pole hose remains attached to your microbore/minibore???

[tlwcs]

For you guys that are tubeless i would like to ask how your pole hose reacts to being tugged at from the reel as you initially pull your hose out?
Does it have an affect on the Union fitting of the reel hose to the pole hose?
Doe's it take a wee bit longer to  reel out because of the extra hose?
How quickly can you connect pole hose to the base of your pole, is it a faffle?

It's not connected trippy
I walk the hose to the furthest window allowing extra for the extension, walk back, get pole and secure van
No faff on the connection or uncoupling .
I only use 100m of pole hose, the blue Exceed stuff
Tony

Im not quite sure what your saying here mate. You saying the pole hose isn't permanently connected to your microbore/minibore? Iam aware there will be a section of pole hose permanently remaining inside your pole roughly the same length as your pole and this will connect to a longer length of pole hose on the outside of the pole, so i take it the longer pole hose remains attached to your microbore/minibore???

Sorry mate, I'll try again.
I alway have disconnected the pole from the hose when reeling in
I now only use Exceed blue pole hose on my reel. I have 100 metres of it on the reel. I have no micro/mimibore hose (I have 1 metre of it from my reel that then steps down with a reducer to allow me to fit the Exceed hose)
The end of the Exceed hose has the protected female fitting that snaps onto the male fitting that remains in the first section of you pole.
It really is fairly simple, there is no faffing and the fittings as their both covered/protected, last months.
There must be loads on YouTube 
Hope that's a bit clearer
Tony