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davids3511

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Re: Why
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2017, 11:19:07 am »
Turning over £50,000 a month and you want to sell leads for a poxy £15? Shame on you.
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What!?! He should give them to you for free I suppose.

davids3511

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Re: Why
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2017, 11:22:27 am »
Anyone hoping to build a business on leafleting is dreaming 2-3 million all you'll do is keep the bin men busy
That's just wrong. Not on the scale of Lee but we have in the region of 1500 customers mostly built on leafleting.

NWH

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Re: Why
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2017, 11:23:41 am »
Might be slightly off subject but i spoke to a windy the other day and he has to pay £280 a week for the van and system on a franchise rain or shine he has to pay,he's 50-50 with another bloke cleaning with him also. He's got to clean 1500 a week to earn a living hence he's had enough after a year of it,I offered him a job he seemed keen lol.

NWH

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Re: Why
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2017, 11:25:36 am »
You can only leaflet certain property's,tweed wearing people won't even look at one.

chris turner

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Re: Why
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2017, 12:40:36 pm »
Lee hope things are going good for you and your closer to buying your ferrari and somewhere to park it,

I wouldn't even consider selling your leads, you have paid to get them so taking a loss and selling them do not  even consider,  some of your options are to make the areas you do not cover to areas you now do,  send a worker further? maybe consider having one or two smaller more fuel efficient vans to travel?

do what jogpost has done and open up another unit so you now have a much larger area you can cover?
sub contract the work out and take a percentage from each clean? but then If I was booking a pryors window clean and some noddy the shiner or 1scrim bob turned up I wouldn't be happy

Lee maybe you should start your own FB group where you can be control of who is in it,

Hahahahahaha I'm sure you'll be first to join.
You like everything this guy does, I think someone has a man crush :-*
Oh Lee your a legend, the master, your fleshlight satisfies me in ways I didn't think possible.
Please start your own cult and let me join, I promise to bow before you and worship everything you do. I will even clean your Ferrari daily.

Seriously mate get a grip.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Why
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2017, 12:44:01 pm »
Chris

Why hate people that simply enjoy building a business and that want to be more. What exactly is your problem?
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Why
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2017, 12:45:43 pm »
Just goes to show some people are never truely happy. You know you have issues when turning over 50k a month isnt enough.

How do you know I am not happy. I enjoy building my business. Simple as that really. I have a goal and I am working towards it. Why is that wrong?
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Why
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2017, 12:47:04 pm »
Just goes to show some people are never truely happy. You know you have issues when turning over 50k a month isnt enough.

Turnover is irrelevant, his costs might be 50k a month.

No they are not.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Smurf

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Re: Why
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2017, 01:04:28 pm »
Best we just stick to posting about brushes and stuff as it's none of our business what others get upto lol
Lee if you want to give TV advertising a go then just do it as there was no real need to post about it now was there.

chris turner

  • Posts: 1500
Re: Why
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2017, 01:18:16 pm »
Chris

Why hate people that simply enjoy building a business and that want to be more. What exactly is your problem?

Hate is a strong word. I don't hate anyone.

What do you mean by "be more" exactly?
You want to have more money then everyone else so you can feel better then everyone?

Go and invent a cure for cancer, then il respect you, il even buy your fleshlight.
Know one will remember you for building a window cleaning business, except scrimble maybe.
I respect people that do things that truly change the world, or self less people that genuinely help others for no reward.
I don't have time for arrogant or greedy people however.

I guess your constant need to self promote winds me up. That dude Susan is the same. Are you related?
Rarely do you contribute anything on these forums nowadays other then about you. Why is that?
Are you too above everyone else to talk about brushes?

Soupy has a large business, why have i never insulted him?
Il tell you why. For quite some time I didn't even realise soupy had a large business. Genuinely.
I thought he was just a "regular" run of the mill window cleaner like most on here.
It shows the character of the man to be able to do well in life but remain grounded, still contribute to the forum and offer advice.

So I don't hate you Lee, you've done well in life, I respect that. But you"ll never be "more" then any other guy on here. Your just a window cleaner who wants to be flashy, who believes having more money makes you more of a man. It doesn't.

chris turner

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Re: Why
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2017, 04:00:35 pm »
Il be honest though Lee, I generally dislike most wealthy people, so it's not just you.
Although it's more the whole "system" in general I dislike.
Why do the rich get richer whilst there's still people living in the streets, using food banks, living in squalid conditions. It's disgusting.
Why do carers work 50-60 hours a week looking after people with dementia, a mentally and physically exhausting job, get £1300 a month whilst a banker gets £10k a month.
The inequality is astounding.
Why do people need so much money? We don't, its all greed.
Everybody deserves a comfortable life, whether you work in MacDonald's or jpmorgan.
There are not enough resources in the world for everyone to be rich, so know one should be rich.
You don't need to be "rich" to lead a rich life.

Money is the root of evil and for a few to be rich, many have to suffer.

In my ideal world everyone would earn nearly the same, work the same hours and be equal, no matter what job you worked.
Want to become a doctor? Great, you get rewarded with the satisfaction your saving lives, not with vast amounts of money.
Want to become a window cleaning company director? Sure, but you only get 10k a year more then your employees. Your reward is your looking after your customers properties and providing jobs to people that need them, for only a slightly better salary.

Of course this will never happen, not in today's world.

Im not jealous of the wealthy, I'm angry that there allowed to get wealthy in the first place.

So yes it p1sses me off that you want more and more and more... Don't you have enough already?
Are you not already living comfortably? Do you really need more?

I live comfortably and i earn far less then you. I have no desire for more because I don't need more. Why makes you need more? What makes you so special? Is your job more difficult then those looking after the elderly with dementia?

We live in a completely unjust, unfair world run by greedy bankers and businessmen who care about nothing other then their own bank balance.

You want me to 1ick your @ss for aspiring to be like that?

Tell you what, draw a 50k a year salary from your business then give all the rest of your profit to charity. You will be my hero, you will be a legend in the eyes of many, you will be "more" then most.



Tosh

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Re: Why
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2017, 04:31:42 pm »
Il be honest though Lee, I generally dislike most wealthy people, so it's not just you.
Although it's more the whole "system" in general I dislike.
Why do the rich get richer whilst there's still people living in the streets

Why shouldn’t people get richer if they make the extra effort?

*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Tosh

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Re: Why
« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2017, 04:33:32 pm »
There is no incentive at all to make a go of things and be in a position to employ others if theres no financial reward. Yes money makes the world go round. Yes, its terrible. Aren’t we shallow.

Suck it up buttercup.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Tosh

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Re: Why
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2017, 04:34:25 pm »
Il be honest though Lee, I generally dislike most wealthy people, so it's not just you.
Although it's more the whole "system" in general I dislike.
Why do the rich get richer whilst there's still people living in the streets, using food banks, living in squalid conditions. It's disgusting.
Why do carers work 50-60 hours a week looking after people with dementia, a mentally and physically exhausting job, get £1300 a month whilst a banker gets £10k a month.
The inequality is astounding.
Why do people need so much money? We don't, its all greed.
Everybody deserves a comfortable life, whether you work in MacDonald's or jpmorgan.
There are not enough resources in the world for everyone to be rich, so know one should be rich.
You don't need to be "rich" to lead a rich life.

Money is the root of evil and for a few to be rich, many have to suffer.

In my ideal world everyone would earn nearly the same, work the same hours and be equal, no matter what job you worked.
Want to become a doctor? Great, you get rewarded with the satisfaction your saving lives, not with vast amounts of money.
Want to become a window cleaning company director? Sure, but you only get 10k a year more then your employees. Your reward is your looking after your customers properties and providing jobs to people that need them, for only a slightly better salary.

Of course this will never happen, not in today's world.

Im not jealous of the wealthy, I'm angry that there allowed to get wealthy in the first place.

So yes it p1sses me off that you want more and more and more... Don't you have enough already?
Are you not already living comfortably? Do you really need more?

I live comfortably and i earn far less then you. I have no desire for more because I don't need more. Why makes you need more? What makes you so special? Is your job more difficult then those looking after the elderly with dementia?

We live in a completely unjust, unfair world run by greedy bankers and businessmen who care about nothing other then their own bank balance.

You want me to 1ick your @ss for aspiring to be like that?

Tell you what, draw a 50k a year salary from your business then give all the rest of your profit to charity. You will be my hero, you will be a legend in the eyes of many, you will be "more" then most.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

chris turner

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Re: Why
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2017, 04:44:33 pm »
There is no incentive at all to make a go of things and be in a position to employ others if theres no financial reward. Yes money makes the world go round. Yes, its terrible. Aren’t we shallow.

Suck it up buttercup.

There's an extra 10k a year, does there need to be more?

Lee Pryor

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Re: Why
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2017, 05:24:01 pm »
You don't the me Chris.

I grew up with nothing on a council estate. My dad died of cancer when I was 3. I have never been given a penny, I didn't go to uni. I had nothing done for me. I work bloody hard and always have, I have passion and drive so why shouldn't there be a reward for that!

You and many other small minded people on here seem to think I'm unhappy, bored, desperate, greedy, all about the money ect ect. I have a goal of the business I want and all I'm doing is working towards it. Why does that have to generate so much sh1it from people like you? Are you those things if you take on 1 more customer tomorrow? How about 10 more next week? where is the line that says that's ok for you but not me?

10K a year more than an employee? no wonder you don't want to do it. I can say its quite a lot more than that.

Its not just for money you know. In a year or so from now I wont have to work. Imagine a great paying you job that you only have to go into 1 day a week. I want freedom both in terms of money and time. Then I can spend that time and money doing the things I really want to do.

Chris I am truly sorry that me wanting to build my business to the level that I aspire to offends you and others here. I'm still going to do it anyway.

The funny thing is I have never looked down on or been rude to anyone on here for wanting to be a sole trader on their own. Yet, if I want to talk about growing bigger look what happens.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Why
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2017, 05:29:32 pm »
Just goes to show some people are never truely happy. You know you have issues when turning over 50k a month isnt enough.
nick sometime your really helpful but that statement makes you a bit of a idiot

weather it growing by £1 or 50k you want to grow your business,so why is it not ok for him

Tosh

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Re: Why
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2017, 05:53:37 pm »
There is no incentive at all to make a go of things and be in a position to employ others if theres no financial reward. Yes money makes the world go round. Yes, its terrible. Aren’t we shallow.

Suck it up buttercup.

There's an extra 10k a year, does there need to be more?

If you risk the kind of money Lee has then yes. How much money have you risked in your business venture? If someone risks £250,000 its absolute idiocy to think that person should be rewarded financially by just an extra 10K.

It’d make more sense to keep the money and do nothing. You haven’t got a business head Chris have you.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

TomCrowther

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Re: Why
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2017, 05:54:21 pm »
Inequality is astounding and it is only getting worse, true, but what has that got to do with Lee?
Lumping Lee in with Bankers is very insulting to Lee and by the way, a Banker wouldn't get out of bed for £10k a month. They create huge wealth by causing misery to millions, shorting and fixing prices, lying, insider trading. There is no end of illegal stuff they get away with. Big money will always stay with the same corrupt group and their offspring.
Lee is just very focused on his business and just isn't interested in posting about brushes or reels.

chris turner

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Re: Why
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2017, 06:00:13 pm »
You don't the me Chris.

I grew up with nothing on a council estate. My dad died of cancer when I was 3. I have never been given a penny, I didn't go to uni. I had nothing done for me. I work bloody hard and always have, I have passion and drive so why shouldn't there be a reward for that!

You and many other small minded people on here seem to think I'm unhappy, bored, desperate, greedy, all about the money ect ect. I have a goal of the business I want and all I'm doing is working towards it. Why does that have to generate so much sh1it from people like you? Are you those things if you take on 1 more customer tomorrow? How about 10 more next week? where is the line that says that's ok for you but not me?

10K a year more than an employee? no wonder you don't want to do it. I can say its quite a lot more than that.

Its not just for money you know. In a year or so from now I wont have to work. Imagine a great paying you job that you only have to go into 1 day a week. I want freedom both in terms of money and time. Then I can spend that time and money doing the things I really want to do.

Chris I am truly sorry that me wanting to build my business to the level that I aspire to offends you and others here. I'm still going to do it anyway.

The funny thing is I have never looked down on or been rude to anyone on here for wanting to be a sole trader on their own. Yet, if I want to talk about growing bigger look what happens.

I'm just expressing my views. Whether they bother you or not I couldn't care less.

You made your views quite clear a while ago when you pointed out how "brush" threads were below you.

I think you offended almost every window cleaner on here with that remark.

Look Lee we're clearly very different people with different outlooks on lives so will never get along.
It's probably wrong of me to vent my views in anger solely at you, so for that I will apologize.
From now on I will no longer engage in your threads or any other topic discussing your business, I give you my word.