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Nick_Thompson

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Subzero temperatures
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:40:58 am »
Out of curiosity, do any of you WFPers have a particular subzero temperature, below which you will not work?

Nick
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Soupy

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 08:51:36 am »
Out of curiosity, do any of you WFPers have a particular subzero temperature, below which you will not work?

Nick

Coldest I've worked in is -17 but we had no choice.

Cut off nowadays is -5 (today is -4)
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andyM

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 04:29:43 pm »
Yes I've worked in -5, sometimes you can't even get away with that with a bitter wind chill.
It was -2 here when I went out about 8.30am and didn't have any problems at all.
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dazmond

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 06:23:25 pm »
when the water freezes in the hose!(it happened the other week on the day my engine blew up!).first window and everything froze.

went home and started later at around 1130am.
price higher/work harder!

8weekly

Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 06:46:15 pm »
It was showing -5 at 8am. My two employees went out at about 8:45 and got all their work done. I didn't go out until later and had no problems.

Stoots

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 07:10:35 pm »
I've not been stopped yet by cold weather. But I've only been at it 2 years. Been stopped by wind or rain but not cold

Tony dunmall

Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 07:57:48 pm »
Depends if your working with hot or cold

With webasto doesn't seem to matter -15 and beyond which is very very rare indeed

Cold water I think if you've got it defrosted and running through hose and pumps
By - 5 it doesn't like it much it will eventually freeze in the jets fans all ways freeze before pencil, depends how much you draw out

For a Few years I worked out of a Honda CR-V new. Shape and a Citroen c-crosser
I used 300 litre tank it was more insulated and warmer than in a van, as long I was quick on a job -5 wasn't too much of a problem

NWH

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2017, 08:45:20 pm »
-5 with no wind you can work,-1 or 2 with wind will give more problems in my experience. Spoke to 2 polers this week both cold systems and had to pack in and go home,hoses froze even when working i remember those days when the pole hose and microbore  hose fitting kept freezing solid.

duncan h

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2017, 09:41:14 pm »
If its not going to dry by the evening, then turn to ice. ITS A NO GO

colin bird

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2017, 07:11:15 am »
i work -2 without problems,tried to work in -5  but water freezing in jets.
i have a cold water system,which brings other problems loops in hose etc


Tony dunmall

Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2017, 01:50:40 pm »
I'm cold water user now

Still debating putting back in the hot water wabasto heater can't make my mind up as I use a additive now, no not vision and I find it is as efficient as hot and no it doesn't colg the pipes or tank in anyway

even with with 70 meters blue exceed pole hoses on, I expected this to freeze quicker but I've been frozen in van half dozen times with -5, -4, -6

Put in air heater hour whilst having breakfast, I do have luxury of a driveway and power near by and it's good to go

But not had to post pone or move a day due to freezing conduction

So not sure enter to put back in or not

About £1000 to refit as a retro  fit through the grippa cabinet
The. Yearly cost not sure

Smurf

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 10:47:51 am »
Personally I think it's bonkers and most custards will too seeing wfp cleaners waving a stick and splashing water about in sub zero temps. Just stay in the warm is what I would do until the temp rises high enough not to cause any issues. That's also using hot/warn water as it freezes quicker than using cold. 

Prolong hard frosts ground surfaces are a lot colder than the glass temp of heated properties that they are trying to wash. That means the runoff when it hits the paving, etc will turn instantly to ice.  Same goes if water on any surfaces left wet does not dry up and the temp drops back down.

I've found a use for my lidl gadget after all  Kev   ;D

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 10:57:46 am »
Personally I think it's bonkers and most custards will too seeing wfp cleaners waving a stick and splashing water about in sub zero temps. Just stay in the warm is what I would do until the temp rises high enough not to cause any issues. That's also using hot/warn water as it freezes quicker than using cold. 

Some of us run businesses though.  ;)

Smurf

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2017, 11:09:55 am »
It would be funny if one of your employees try's to sue you if he slips on the ice he just created himself.
I'm sure you've done it too.... ;D

2 days ago as a quick test  I threw a small glass of water on one of my paving slabs as the back garden don't get much sun until after midday.  It's still got ice on it today so just goes to show how long ice can hang about.  ::)roll


Soupy

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2017, 02:40:33 pm »
It would be funny if one of your employees try's to sue you if he slips on the ice he just created himself.
I'm sure you've done it too.... ;D

2 days ago as a quick test  I threw a small glass of water on one of my paving slabs as the back garden don't get much sun until after midday.  It's still got ice on it today so just goes to show how long ice can hang about.  ::)roll

Crazy innit.

If only there was some method of removing water from flat surfaces or defrosting ice.
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chris turner

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2017, 02:48:00 pm »
Just been out to the van to fill up, everything frozen solid. Couldn't even get the lid off the tank as that was frozen! Had to use a hammer...
You know it's cold when there's an inch of ice in the tank.
Hoping if i put a heater in now it will all be defrosted by the morning.

Stoots

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2017, 03:20:47 pm »
Do most of you guys live in the u.k or the arctic?

Never had wfp freeze on me whilst working, and as long as there is a heater in the van overnight it doesnt freeze then either.

I dont have a bulkhead in my van which probably does help a great deal in keeping everything warm during the day

chris turner

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2017, 04:35:27 pm »
Do most of you guys live in the u.k or the arctic?

Never had wfp freeze on me whilst working, and as long as there is a heater in the van overnight it doesnt freeze then either.

I dont have a bulkhead in my van which probably does help a great deal in keeping everything warm during the day

All week here up to until about 10am the water has been freezing on the windows.
Last night was -8, daytime temp high today was 4c but took until 2pm to reach that. Now 4.30pm and temperature is 1c.
I'm in Aldershot but certainly feels like the Arctic at the moment.

G Griffin

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Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2017, 05:08:11 pm »
Mad, isn't it?
Water freezing when it reaches freezing point, even when we are trying to make a living.
Just no consideration some substances  >:(,
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8weekly

Re: Subzero temperatures
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2017, 05:23:03 pm »
Do most of you guys live in the u.k or the arctic?

Never had wfp freeze on me whilst working, and as long as there is a heater in the van overnight it doesnt freeze then either.

I dont have a bulkhead in my van which probably does help a great deal in keeping everything warm during the day

All week here up to until about 10am the water has been freezing on the windows.
Last night was -8, daytime temp high today was 4c but took until 2pm to reach that. Now 4.30pm and temperature is 1c.
I'm in Aldershot but certainly feels like the Arctic at the moment.
I'm only in Newbury and we haven't lost any time at all. Cold water too. Bit of freezing on the odd conservatory but not on houses.