[Smurf]

Minus six this morning but my tank was full to the brim with thirty three degrees of pure water. I'm loving this immersion game.
Warm water all day, constant warmth no poxy boiler tripping out, no gas to turn on and off and no worries of an explosion 100yds around the back of a house whilst an unattended boiler fires away! Should have done it years ago. 

you ll probably melt your plugs/electrics now and set fire to your van while your asleep!

Forgot to mention yer house as well 

[Smurf]

Oh and best watch out for urban foxes & rodents as they have an anoying habit of trying to chew through power cables left outside at night... daft little critters 

[Dave Willis]

    strange the house has never caught fire with the household immersion on?
 2kw element with arctic cable and 20a connectors so I'm not expecting trouble. If a shrew does manage to chew through the cable then the electric should trip out.

Malc, I'd be a bit concerned if your wiring from socket back to fuseboard hasn't been upgraded. 3kw is pushing it a bit.

[Dave Willis]

I wonder at what temperature does bull poo freeze ? lol.

Do you think it freezes at zero? Maybe -003? That's actually warmer than zero because there is no such thing as a minus number. Google it. There's a book on zero.

[SeanK]

I wonder at what temperature does bull poo freeze ? lol.

Do you think it freezes at zero? Maybe -003? That's actually warmer than zero because there is no such thing as a minus number. Google it. There's a book on zero.

So you don't know then ? lol.

[Dave Willis]

Tell me I can't work it out 

[SeanK]

    strange the house has never caught fire with the household immersion on?
 2kw element with arctic cable and 20a connectors so I'm not expecting trouble. If a shrew does manage to chew through the cable then the electric should trip out.

Malc, I'd be a bit concerned if your wiring from socket back to fuseboard hasn't been upgraded. 3kw is pushing it a bit.

You can get 3kw room heaters that plug into the room sockets, why don't they burn out the electrics ?

[SeanK]

Tell me I can't work it out 

Same here its why I asked the question, its went below minus nine on this topic and still hasn't froze. lol.

[robert mitchell]

    strange the house has never caught fire with the household immersion on?
 2kw element with arctic cable and 20a connectors so I'm not expecting trouble. If a shrew does manage to chew through the cable then the electric should trip out.

Malc, I'd be a bit concerned if your wiring from socket back to fuseboard hasn't been upgraded. 3kw is pushing it a bit.

You can get 3kw room heaters that plug into the room sockets, why don't they burn out the electrics ?

Because they dont run constantly for 6-7 hours at a time like the immersion does , it will cut in and out as the room heats/cools, so its not running long enough for cables/plugs to melt .

[Dave Willis]

Don't ask me, I was told 3kw is right on the limit for domestic wiring. The sockets and plugs will run it ..... just but will break down quicker. I'm not an electrician my son is.
I'm trying to remember if I ever plugged my 3600w gutter vac into the house supply.

[SeanK]

Don't ask me, I was told 3kw is right on the limit for domestic wiring. The sockets and plugs will run it ..... just but will break down quicker. I'm not an electrician my son is.
I'm trying to remember if I ever plugged my 3600w gutter vac into the house supply.

As far as I know a 240v 13amp socket is rated to 3100watts not sure how continuous use would effect this.

[Og]

Parp. What's 13 x 240?

I've had a poop day. Winter is poop.

[Tosh]

If you can't work that out you shouldn't be a window cleaner.

[JandS]

3kw divide by 240 volts = 12.5amps.......in theory each socket should be able to handle that.

[Smurf]

I'm no sparky but still would not be daft enough to try running a 3kw immersion heater off a standard 13amp ring main. http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/immersionheater.htm

[AuRavelling79]

Anyway I run 3KW and use 16 amp sockets and don't get the scorching I used to with a 13 amp extension lead after a few hours. The original wiring from my house to my garage (where the power comes from) was put in place over ten years ago by an electrician on the basis that I might need to run power tools and a fan heater off of it at the same time. (ie able to cope with 3kw)

Nevertheless, when sockets and switches got warm my bro. who's a "bit tecky and clever" with Lek Trickery and such like said the cable from the house to the sockets in the garage was "man enough" but that the 13 amp extension lead was "on the limit" so made up a 16 amp one which has worked fine for the last three years.

[Jonny 87]

That warm water in the tank won't stop all the hoses freezing in the van though

It does.

Acts like a big radiator. We had -9 here last week and van was well above freezing in the back with a 40c tank.

[Dave Willis]

Yep that's what I found. What surprises me is how long the water stays warm too. I went out at 8.30 every morning this week, it was so cold the water was freezing  on some panes and instantly turning to ice on concrete. Normally I wouldn't go out until the temperature reached minus one. I think I've easily recouped my money this week.

[AuRavelling79]

Yep that's what I found. What surprises me is how long the water stays warm too. I went out at 8.30 every morning this week, it was so cold the water was freezing  on some panes and instantly turning to ice on concrete. Normally I wouldn't go out until the temperature reached minus one. I think I've easily recouped my money this week.

It's great innit! Dan the Man got his van frozen up yesterday and he lost half a day faffing around and thawing/replacing fractured hose joints etc.

Because I was up to schedule  I offered to take him in my van to do some of his work for a half day. We cracked through it in 2 hours. He loved the supple hoses and warm water. (And me paying for fuel and heat of course!)

[Tony dunmall]

an interesting question which interest's me about hot water heating via the  elements as I'm interested in doing it this way

has anyone looked into the possibility that we could be  creating a breeding ground for legionnaire  disease through  hot water heated this way?

when i talk to some prominent in the industry this topic does come up and i wonder what research is available, what research any one has done  and what precautions some put in place,

as the application outside of an immersion heater in your home is different