[nathankaye]

Via my web site, i had an enquiry to clean somebody's windows. It was only an hr later when i saw the enquiry and so phoned the lady for details. It was a 3 bed semi with conservatory and looking for a price. But then she told me that another chap had got back to her before me calling and said he could do it for £7.50 and so politely told her that i couldnt offer my services for that little amount but thanked her for the enquiry and to keep me in mind if circumstances changed.

Ive no idea if hes trad or wfp, but either way what a ridiculous price. If only these chaps had some self worth and stopped selling themselves cheap

[dave f]

depends were you are youre lucky to get 8 quid were we are to some every pound is a prisoner self worth dose not put food on the table if were you are  is swamped with shiner it follows the rate is gonna suffer  more cleaners = less work=low prices.

[Ian101]

what if he had 6 others next door to her all the same ?

3 bed semi with average conny on ladders 20 minutes or wfp 12 minutes.

not a bad hourly rate for some parts of the country ... down south then yes mad prices but better than factory min wages work.

[Shrek]

Keep pushing those prices Nathan, forget what others charge and just charge what you'd like to work for.
It'll take longer to get a decent round but you'll have an awesome round eventually.
I think this has come up before and slack looked into how many house are worth half a million round there and there's quite a few!
Don't concentrate on the small council estate type houses where everyone seems skint . there's a lot of people out there who don't want a Chavy window cleaner turning up to their posh house

[Dave Willis]

I was in the city of Bath at the weekend at a nice bungalow. Owner asked me what I'd charge I told him I didn't want the work as it was outside my area and wasn't interested. I told them normally it would be around £15.
They were quoted £35 by another cleaner, but then I am a bit chavvy.

[Stoots]

Obv depends where you but here in West Yorkshire low prices are ingrained in society.

I had a call yesterday, hi can you come and clean my windows...sure for your house it would be about £12 but I can give you an exact price when I arrive.

Oh, next door says she pays £5.

Not to me she doesn't, maybe you should ask her who cleans her windows

Ok I will she says. Bye

To be honest I'm more surprised when they take my offer than when they decline  due to price. I get only maybe 1 in 3 or 4 quotes but never mind you have to remember ( if your a one man band and want to stay that way) you only need 300-400 customers so even with that rate of rejection with hundreds of  thousands of houses in my city there's plenty of work out there still. 

[dazmond]

Via my web site, i had an enquiry to clean somebody's windows. It was only an hr later when i saw the enquiry and so phoned the lady for details. It was a 3 bed semi with conservatory and looking for a price. But then she told me that another chap had got back to her before me calling and said he could do it for £7.50 and so politely told her that i couldnt offer my services for that little amount but thanked her for the enquiry and to keep me in mind if circumstances changed.

Ive no idea if hes trad or wfp, but either way what a ridiculous price. If only these chaps had some self worth and stopped selling themselves cheap

there will always be window cleaners cheaper(and more expensive!).

whats "self worth" got to do with it?he might be perfectly happy with £7-50 for that size property.

lots of window cleaners charge low prices everywhere but if you have a lot(house after house)you can still make half decent money.

he might be just starting out or really need the work.either way we  all charge what we want.

you win some and lose some.

[SeanK]

Excellent reply Dazmond, if he's been working in some hole for £7.20 an hour then he might be making more money than
he's ever made in his life.
If later in the game he finds out he's working for less than everybody else then he would be a fool not to improve his lot.

[slap bash]

If all his worth is 7.50 then it may be wise to go back to that 7.20 hellhole job he had before.

[nathankaye]

For all the ones jumping on bandwagon saying whats self worth got to do with it etc etc and loads of shiners etc etc. In these areas ive been working on well established rounds and charge hell of alot more than 7.50 for a 3bed semi dispite new shiners coming with low low prices only to quickly go. But i ask this, if a 3 bed semi is 7.50 with a conny, how much do u reckon hes charging for a normal 3 bed semi........
Yea hes putting food on table for his family along with claiming every benefit under the sun probably, whikst driving down expected prices for everybody else inc new potential shiners etc.

[SeanK]

If all his worth is 7.50 then it may be wise to go back to that 7.20 hellhole job he had before.

If he's taking an hour to clean this property then yes, if doing three or four an hour then why would he ?

[SeanK]

For all the ones jumping on bandwagon saying whats self worth got to do with it etc etc and loads of shiners etc etc. In these areas ive been working on well established rounds and charge hell of alot more than 7.50 for a 3bed semi dispite new shiners coming with low low prices only to quickly go. But i ask this, if a 3 bed semi is 7.50 with a conny, how much do u reckon hes charging for a normal 3 bed semi........
Yea hes putting food on table for his family along with claiming every benefit under the sun probably, whikst driving down expected prices for everybody else inc new potential shiners etc.

Dry your eyes Nathan, the guys doing what's right for him just as your doing what's right for you, just as your looking down on
him others on here will be looking down on you and your pricing.

[Stoots]

I think part of the problem is you assume everyone is the same as you Nathan.

I have 4 kids and the usual bills and I would not clean that house for 7.50 because I like to earn more than that so I don't have to struggle.

But the guy who is doing in for 7.50 could do 3 an hour  for 6 hours  day. That's roughly 130 a day Now he could work harder than that have more compact work and earn more.

But let's assume he "only turns over 130 a day". So that's what nearly 2.5k a month. Maybe he lives in a council house or low rent and has a partner but mo kids. His outgoings could be less than 1k a month.

To some people that would be considered a fortune.

2 years ago when I worked full time for 1200 a monto I would have ripped your arm off to earn that much. 500 a week was a lot of money to me then and it still is now,  it's just that I can see much more potential in it than that.

I hate low priced guys too it makes it much harder to buold a round but to suggest he is living on the breadline and claiming every benefit under the sun is ridiculous.

I think ksometimes we don't realise how lucky we are in this job to be able to earn more than a lot of people and quite a lot of people who have been to university for years etc.

There's a lot worse existences than cleaning a house for 7 quid that takes 15 mins or so.

Like I say, I have the vision to earn a lot more but sometimes is far too easy to be snobby

[Soupy]

For all the ones jumping on bandwagon saying whats self worth got to do with it etc etc and loads of shiners etc etc. In these areas ive been working on well established rounds and charge hell of alot more than 7.50 for a 3bed semi dispite new shiners coming with low low prices only to quickly go. But i ask this, if a 3 bed semi is 7.50 with a conny, how much do u reckon hes charging for a normal 3 bed semi........
Yea hes putting food on table for his family along with claiming every benefit under the sun probably, whikst driving down expected prices for everybody else inc new potential shiners etc.

Is this guy having any effect on you?

[SeanK]

I think part of the problem is you assume everyone is the same as you Nathan.

I have 4 kids and the usual bills and I would not clean that house for 7.50 because I like to earn more than that so I don't have to struggle.

But the guy who is doing in for 7.50 could do 3 an hour  for 6 hours  day. That's roughly 130 a day Now he could work harder than that have more compact work and earn more.

But let's assume he "only turns over 130 a day". So that's what nearly 2.5k a month. Maybe he lives in a council house or low rent and has a partner but mo kids. His outgoings could be less than 1k a month.

To some people that would be considered a fortune.

2 years ago when I worked full time for 1200 a monto I would have ripped your arm off to earn that much. 500 a week was a lot of money to me then and it still is now,  it's just that I can see much more potential in it than that.

I hate low priced guys too it makes it much harder to buold a round but to suggest he is living on the breadline and claiming every benefit under the sun is ridiculous.

I think ksometimes we don't realise how lucky we are in this job to be able to earn more than a lot of people and quite a lot of people who have been to university for years etc.

There's a lot worse existences than cleaning a house for 7 quid that takes 15 mins or so.

Like I say, I have the vision to earn a lot more but sometimes is far too easy to be snobby

Exactly Adam, great post and maybe this guy will eventually see the extra potential if its there to be had.

[Smurf]

We all know of shiners that are quite happy to charge what they want to put food on the table regardless how low we may think their prices are.  Some may I add have been is the game a very long time.

The hardest part I suppose to try and gain enough compact work at so say "top dollar" prices so they don't have to work so hard for the same amount of reward. That can be easier said than done in the real world as there will always be someone cheaper than you. 

How much they wants to charge is down to them as there is no right or wrong price as long as their customers & the shiner is happy that all that matters surely?

[Soupy]

Nathan is obsessed with what other window cleaners charge. It really seems to get to him.

[Smurf]

I blame the old school trad cleaners myself mostly that still do it for next to bugger all 
Not only some potentials live in the past but many shiners do to. I think it's called something like price conditioning.

[nathankaye]

Nathan is obsessed with what other window cleaners charge. It really seems to get to him.

Peoples silly responses on here gets to me a little, especially when im having a bad day. Like today, i always lay my hose flat straight over rd if it needs to. Some idiot was flying down street (over limit) but scraping is plastic undercariage (? Not bril at spelling) along floor which snagged on hose pipe and yank my hose n reel out from connectors and into middle of road as well as yanking brush out my hands. It pulled his/hers plastic guard off but they didnt notice as just carried on flying down street. Its taken 30 mins to fix it all, so miffed a little now 😤.
So be weary when laying hose across the floor of the road.

Ok prices, i dont particularly care what others charge and was just sharing it on here because i personally thought its ridiculously low. Prob charges less than 5 for a normal 3 bed semi without conny. But im posting this to wrong folk on here as it sounds like we should all drop our prices because its seemingly impossible to get relatively good prices  for cleaning windows (even tho a whle lot of us do,,,,,strange isnt it) and all you need to do is charge silly low prices and work your ass of all day everyday to make a living. According to some above posts.

Doesnt affect my business thats been more than established with good prices for the areas. Just strikes me as funny that all, but if i want to take more work on im not gonna charge silly prices just to get it because i feel customers wont pay it (again to do with mind set, as posted on many pricing threads). Thats generally what u find with people who charge low, they generally think customers wont pay more. But as some on here know, you give quality, regular, reliable work and clients will pay and yes for less than 10 or 15mixn work. Thats in south yorkshire too.

[nathankaye]

Haha, as im taking 5mins out after sorting back of van out. A chap (polish not that it matters), jumps out his house n knocks on van window. Could you clean front of my house for a fiver?
I sadly declined, explaining it would be more to clean as a one off. But hey, thats me being a snob apparantly. ....dont figure

Now im sure ones are gonna tell me that a fiver is well worth it. Yep if your desperate for money.  Others will tell me a whole lot more to charge and what tbey would charge if this is in their particular rounds......which is also fine.
Its good to talk....