[dave f]

 thought  I would go out and top up a few lost jobs due to  deaths. moving  the usual stuff only to find ive been beaten to it  by  2 out of town  firms  looks like I will untill January let the dust settle

[SeanK]

Yep, now that there's no longer the need to work from a ladder every man and his dog wants to be a window cleaner,
as you said the reality of the job and winter usually sorts them out.  lol.

[dave f]

make that 3 wanna beees I put a positive spin on it and look at it as healthy competition 

[slap bash]

Maybe the time has arrived to close the hand on information we make public on here.  Maybe broadcast the negative truths a bit more.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

trouble is you have too many window cleaners trying to be the big man and telling everybody there earning 500 aday , then these people think " I can do that "

our sign writer as asked me about setting up,  as a fellow window cleaner as been in there being the big man and telling him how much he earns as window cleaner !

sharp put him write , told him the truth  i.e. if this guy was earning so much money why is he running around in a pile of poope and only spending 60 pounds  on sign writeing ?

[Smurf]

Regards to material things some people don't like to flaunt their doing well so do not find the need to spend a fortune on the latest van, kit etc either unlike some.

Customers can be rather fickle too as may think hang on a mo the price I'm paying is way too much when they see a firm turn up in brand new motor/s and all sparkly toys being used.

[dave f]

agree one moaned when I told them I was on holiday in  july 

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Regards to material things some people don't like to flaunt their doing well so do not find the need to spend a fortune on the latest van, kit etc either unlike some.

Customers can be rather fickle too as may think hang on a mo the price I'm paying is way too much when they see a firm turn up in brand new motor/s and all sparkly toys being used.

never had this as were not in the lower end market , 99% of our work is good work and most of the customers  get new cars every three years so they never notice a new van as its the norm for them to have them anyways ,

[Bungle]

Regards to material things some people don't like to flaunt their doing well so do not find the need to spend a fortune on the latest van, kit etc either unlike some.

Customers can be rather fickle too as may think hang on a mo the price I'm paying is way too much when they see a firm turn up in brand new motor/s and all sparkly toys being used.

never had this as were not in the lower end market , 99% of our work is good work and most of the customers  get new cars every three years so they never notice a new van as its the norm for them to have them anyways ,

Do you avoid council estates?

[dave f]

whooooooo  listen to her lower end of the market who are you queen of shiners you must be related to the big man .give in it large

[dazmond]

Maybe the time has arrived to close the hand on information we make public on here.  Maybe broadcast the negative truths a bit more.

do you really think a newbie will be able to earn £30-£40 an hour cleaning windows from the off working 30-35 hours a week 4 weeks a month?not a cat in hells chance!they then get discouraged and the bad weather comes and they pack it in.

it takes years to get a good solid round together that is  profitable on a consistent basis without loads of messers/hassle.refined over many years of separating the wheat from the chaf,taking on new higher paid work,price rises here and there and dropping the rubbish.

[dave f]

i agree theirs to many windys in this small town  i am still trying to get a solid round but always trying

[Smurf]

You want to try working in my town with ionic on the  doorstep and firms with mulliple vans. Not mentioning any names 
Once I was doing a bit and counted 6  individules working in the same street. All seprate window cleaning firms may I add.

[sunshine windows]

do you really think a newbie will be able to earn £30-£40 an hour cleaning windows from the off working 30-35 hours a week 4 weeks a month?not a cat in hells chance!they then get discouraged and the bad weather comes and they pack it in.

it takes years to get a good solid round together that is  profitable on a consistent basis without loads of messers/hassle.refined over many years of separating the wheat from the chaf,taking on new higher paid work,price rises here and there and dropping the rubbish.

This is why franchising is a great idea for some 😉

Smurf's right! (For a change 😜) Ionics being based in Swindon has had a massive impact on new start ups jumping straight into wfp window cleaning thinking it's easy money. Social media helps spread the word of a newbie cleaner very easily, especially if they're really cheap and do a half decent job, so they get fairly busy in a short space of time.

Not put a leaflet out since January 2015 personally, as the enquiries are coming in fast enough for us to grow nice and steadily. I couldn't think of anything worse than feeling that constant pressure to keep up with loads of new cleans.

[dave f]

all we can do  is keep on keeping on  I suppose.  what we need is a cull  lets have a  bad winter

[Smurf]

I'm aware of one new start-up that bought a new van set up from ionic that was going around threatening other cleaners to stay off his patch.  Funny enough I don't see him around anymore. The rumours going around at the time he could not keep up with the finance payments.

Many come and go each year as after all it's not a real job is it now.

[dave the rave]

I actually do not mind anyone door knocking any of my work as I feel quite confident  in my service I provide and the price I charge (£1 per window ) My Clients  tell me regularly. That they have had someone knocking or a leaflet has been pushed through the door . My reaction is always the same smile and say good luck to them .

[Smurf]

You need to start worrying when you're loosing work to a firm that is dearer.
And yes is does happen as I should know as get told all the time "our window cleaner was cheaper."  Makes you think don't it?

[dave f]

yep. still ive had  7 new custys this week alone  I always ask what as  happened to your old window cleaner most just say he just turns up as and when he wants   charges a fortune then  vanishes must be the same guy as they are in the same place

[supernova77]

I actually do not mind anyone door knocking any of my work as I feel quite confident  in my service I provide and the price I charge (£1 per window ) My Clients  tell me regularly. That they have had someone knocking or a leaflet has been pushed through the door . My reaction is always the same smile and say good luck to them .

£1 per window?

That's so 20th Century!