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Lee Burbidge

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Check out the new Booth Talk video in Window Cleaning Magazine section of Clean It Up and let me know what you think after Perry has explained how the constructor brush helps window cleaners clean glass faster. Bladed bristle sets and rinse bars.....does anyone use wfp brushes with rinse bars?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=203813.0

Spruce

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 07:14:19 am »
Check out the new Booth Talk video in Window Cleaning Magazine section of Clean It Up and let me know what you think after Perry has explained how the constructor brush helps window cleaners clean glass faster. Bladed bristle sets and rinse bars.....does anyone use wfp brushes with rinse bars?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=203813.0

Perry is biased. Its only natural as its his own invention.

I doubt many on here will buy his brush at the price of them. Jeff Brimble had 4 jets on his brush mounted at the top of his brush, so I don't know whether that counts as a rinse bar or not.

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simonr

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 07:22:13 am »
link is just yanks droning ?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 07:33:03 am »
link is just yanks droning ?

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simonr

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 07:51:46 am »
over me, which is worse

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 09:31:40 am »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.

Simonr.... it also works the other way round... a limey droning on about 'yanks' and complaining....

Lee Pryor

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 09:46:00 am »
I don't see perry or a new brush from this link??
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G Griffin

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 09:51:04 am »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.
And that's what the Yanks say to us when they use drone bombs.
The big difference is that these brushes are more expensive than a drone!
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G Griffin

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2016, 10:02:10 am »
Here he is returning from the North after trying to make window cleaning more profitable up here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKF8KkD7rE

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Lee Burbidge

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 03:04:21 pm »
I don't see perry or a new brush from this link??

The link takes you to the post Lee that is in the Window Cleaning Magazine section of Clean it up, there is a video link in that post

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2016, 03:05:03 pm »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.
And that's what the Yanks say to us when they use drone bombs.
The big difference is that these brushes are more expensive than a drone!

I am pretty sure 'drone bombs' is going off topic lol and I have no idea what relation it has to JRC of California in the film..... its up to the consumer to weigh up cost against efficiency... I can only assume you have looked at this in great detail, tested the product for a few months and decided the cost outweighs any potential benefits to your business....

windowswashed

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2016, 03:11:29 pm »
I am trying the improved Tucker brush with six jets, (four on the ends and two near the middle with a bird poop scrapper added to the stock of the brush).  Some good innovations on the brush. The brush scrubs brilliantly, they always have. The two things that let it down was that it never had jets at the ends of the stock and had a useless overhead rinse jet which was positioned too high above the brush stock rendering it useless as the water would hit the brickwork above the window frames.  The place you want the jets is spread evenly apart in relation to the length of the stock hence why I could never understand why gardiner pole systems drill a second hole so close to the already fitted jets, bit pointless in my opinion as I use 4 -8 jets depending on whatever brush I'm using.  Having two jets on the ends of the stock help when rinsing brush on or off near the edge of wooden window frames where a bead of silicon repels the water which I find useful. Reach-it have some useful innovations so I don't knock them for experimenting with new ideas. I can see some good ideas in the new construction brush that aggitates the dirt on the upstrokes and pulls the water down on the down stroke (brush on as it would be qucker than normal rinsing horizontally). Using the overhead rinse bar would be a disaster if the jets were aiming to high above the brush bristles just like the original Tucker overhead spray use to, but, if the jets on the rinse bar were aimed at the very top of the bristles it could be a very useful brush. I haven't tried the upstroke constructor brush yet but would welcome the opportunity to try one out if I was provided with a free sample brush to try and write my honest opinions after using it for a month. Would welcome anyone who has used a constructor brush to give their honest opinions instead of reading comments from people who criticise reach it when they haven't tried their products.  Whilst gardiner strive to improve their brushes, some are good, some are bad, they still have a lot of room for improvement like making the holes on their brushes further apart and leaving less bristles out where the jets are fitted.....why as the brush loses some scrubbing ability owing to less bristles.
It's like I like using swivel brushes to reach awkward windows, work easier in confined spaces and generally speed up cleaning with swivellers fitted as opposed to fixed goose necks. Disappointed that Gardiners new on/off device fitted to their goosenecks works on swivelling the brush to turn on/off the water as it goes against using swivellers and makes it almost impossible to use both fitted. I had one of the originals fitted to my brush, tried my hardest to use it but got so frustrated with it, in the end I threw it away in the dustbin and promised I'd never use one again with a swiveller or a fixed gooseneck.

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2016, 03:14:31 pm »
I am trying the improved Tucker brush with six jets, (four on the ends and two near the middle with a bird poop scrapper added to the stock of the brush).  Some good innovations on the brush. The brush scrubs brilliantly, they always have. The two things that let it down was that it never had jets at the ends of the stock and had a useless overhead rinse jet which was positioned too high above the brush stock rendering it useless as the water would hit the brickwork above the window frames.  The place you want the jets is spread evenly apart in relation to the length of the stock hence why I could never understand why gardiner pole systems drill a second hole so close to the already fitted jets, bit pointless in my opinion as I use 4 -8 jets depending on whatever brush I'm using.  Having two jets on the ends of the stock help when rinsing brush on or off near the edge of wooden window frames where a bead of silicon repels the water which I find useful. Reach-it have some useful innovations so I don't knock them for experimenting with new ideas. I can see some good ideas in the new construction brush that aggitates the dirt on the upstrokes and pulls the water down on the down stroke (brush on as it would be qucker than normal rinsing horizontally). Using the overhead rinse bar would be a disaster if the jets were aiming to high above the brush bristles just like the original Tucker overhead spray use to, but, if the jets on the rinse bar were aimed at the very top of the bristles it could be a very useful brush. I haven't tried the upstroke constructor brush yet but would welcome the opportunity to try one out if I was provided with a free sample brush to try and write my honest opinions after using it for a month. Would welcome anyone who has used a constructor brush to give their honest opinions instead of reading comments from people who criticise reach it when they haven't tried their products.  Whilst gardiner strive to improve their brushes, some are good, some are bad, they still have a lot of room for improvement like making the holes on their brushes further apart and leaving less bristles out where the jets are fitted.....why as the brush loses some scrubbing ability owing to less bristles.
It's like I like using swivel brushes to reach awkward windows, work easier in confined spaces and generally speed up cleaning with swivellers fitted as opposed to fixed goosenecks. Disappointe that gardiners new on/off device fitted to their goosenecks works on swivelling the brush to turn on/off the water as it goes against using swivellers and makes it almost impossible to use both fitted. I had one of the originals fitted to my brush, tried my hardest to use it but got so frustrated with it, in the end I threw it away in the dustbin and promised I's never use one again with a swiveller or a fixed gooseneck.

Nice post. I have Tucker Pole stopping at my house in a few weeks time.... hoping to put a film together on his new gear...

simonr

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 03:25:09 pm »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.

Simonr.... it also works the other way round... a limey droning on about 'yanks' and complaining....
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indeed it does lol
but all i meant was the link didnt take me to anything about the brush, just lots of talking

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 04:09:45 pm »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.

Simonr.... it also works the other way round... a limey droning on about 'yanks' and complaining....
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indeed it does lol
but all i meant was the link didnt take me to anything about the brush, just lots of talking

The link (video) didn't tell you anything?..... just lots of talking? lmao too funny...... lol so you didn't see the part where Perry demos and explains how the brush works actually on the glass and the thinking around it?

Soupy

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 04:25:41 pm »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.

Simonr.... it also works the other way round... a limey droning on about 'yanks' and complaining....

indeed it does lol
but all i meant was the link didnt take me to anything about the brush, just lots of talking

The link (video) didn't tell you anything?..... just lots of talking? lmao too funny...... lol so you didn't see the part where Perry demos and explains how the brush works actually on the glass and the thinking around it?

Err, I'm not sure that happens?
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Spruce

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2016, 04:32:31 pm »
I think biased comes hand in hand with a product you believe in, but I do know that Perry puts a lot of thinking into how to make window cleaning more profitable for window cleaners within the tools they design. He is a manufacturer and by taking this approach perhaps he is looking for that win win deal for all... that, in my opinion is, is the best sales approach.


I fully agree Lee - hence the reason why I don't get over excited when a manufacturer/supplier gets all hyped about a new product he is making/selling.
Their whole sales approach is the accentuate the positives and down play the negatives.

Perry's constructor brush maybe the best brush in the world, but its too heavy and its too costly. When they start to try to sell the brush on fast application and less cleaning time will pay for itself in no time, I immediately get the feeling that they are try to blow smoke up my nether regions. Somewhere on one of the videos I'm sure he confronts the weight issue by trying to turn it into a positive - you need weight to clean the glass.

Richard tried to sell his Aerial brush on one pass no rinse spiel. He was talking rubbish. The brush was too heavy (bought one) and there is no way you could get away with one pass and no rinse.  He was trying to find a way to justify the cost of his DIY brush. When users complained about the weight he initially fob us off - better quicker cleaning was his reply. Dare you criticise Richard. He knew best and anyone who disagreed was an idiot.

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nathankaye

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 05:47:15 pm »
Ive watched perhaps all of perrys videos on youtube and even until late been a member on his forum (just cant get on with the over zealous larger than life attitude of the americans)
On his forum i brought up the issue of cost for the reach it mini and the constructor brush. Its a little like this forum, you cant say anything without offending someone if you disagree with a gardiner product. So too with Perrys forum if you question their products.
I was genuinely asking on the forum as,   like i said above, watched alot of informative stuff from perry. So i initially would have like to get some of his stuff however they are ridiculously expensive.  The poles sound like hard work with all the additional attachments etc etc.
The constructor brush, looks heavy and tacky and yet its quite costly for what it is.
I agree with the above post about how some companies pre drill holes for additional jets, wayyy to close to each other as i also use 4 jets.
But i think hes onto something, but a long way of from perfecting it and some of his ideas are recycled from some flops of the past. Nothing against the bloke, but i think hes heading in right direction with some ideas but he needs to sort out his pricing structure esp for here in the uk when there is such a diverse range to go at which also do a wonderful job.
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Frankybadboy

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Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 06:35:33 pm »
wouldnt trust perry as far as i could trow his brush

ChumBucket

Re: Does the design of the Constructor brush improve speed on the glass?
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2016, 07:45:18 pm »
It's rubbish- end of. If it wasn't we would all be using it by now.