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JandS

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The dark side.
« on: June 26, 2016, 11:18:24 am »
New gear sorted unleash it on the world tomorrow.
Did my own yesterday....look good today apart from one window which has spotting down the middle of the pane.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Tosh

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 11:50:36 am »
The pane with spotting, I presume it has two openers above it?
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JandS

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2016, 01:02:15 pm »
Indeed SB...it does.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Shrek

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 01:06:44 pm »
What's your ppm on your tap water ? iv the same RO set up and my resin is lasting a couple of weeks in that size vessel

Smurf

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2016, 01:09:30 pm »
Takes time to master the art of stick waggling and splashing water about it does young jedi.  ;D

JandS

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 02:35:17 pm »
Anything between 104 and 112 Shrek......comes out of RO at 03 or 04.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

hank jr

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 03:02:20 pm »
How much work can you get cleaned with this little system before you run out of water?

Shrek

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 03:31:45 pm »
Anything between 104 and 112 Shrek......comes out of RO at 03 or 04.

Cheers pal , mine comes out at 002 but have found my resin lasting only a little while

JandS

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2016, 07:48:44 pm »
250 litres  so you tell me.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

SeanK

Re: The dark side.
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2016, 11:11:41 pm »
Once your up to speed there's no reason why you couldn't get a full day from 250lts on 4 weekly repeat work.

Smurf

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2016, 11:25:36 pm »
Well I suppose that all depends on the amount/ type of work you do using purified water as for example I can quite easily get through 250 litres on just one domestic property exterior clean.  I've found the more work you take on the larger van tank you will need as from my own experience I outgrew a 250 van tank very quickly even just  doing regular wfp window cleaning without doing any addons.

Smurf

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2016, 11:56:51 pm »
New gear sorted unleash it on the world tomorrow.
Did my own yesterday....look good today apart from one window which has spotting down the middle of the pane.

I would also suggest you get yourself a 1000 ltr decent static system set up in your garage instead of messing around filling containers like that. Oh and good luck humping that trolley and water containers about all day long.  I started off with a 25 ltr pf trolley and that was bad enough let alone using that thing as my back is starting to ache just looking at it.

If you have a van already why not  use that trolley static in the van instead and later on when funds allow get a decent size van tank installed too which will make your life so much easier.

nathankaye

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2016, 02:27:11 am »
When i wanted to make jump from trad to wfp i was dead set on using purefreedom 25ltr trolley for upstairs only. Then when upgraded to van system to run of the trolley. Thought it was a sound idea and cheaper.
Oooh im so grateful i was adviced against it and was told that most who did this, ended up upgrading and that i shud skip middle part of trolley. So, so glad i listened.
Just thinking of dragging that thing around alongside trad equip for downstairs and changing water or having drop off points is making me feel worn out
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lal

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 06:59:49 am »
Well I suppose that all depends on the amount/ type of work you do using purified water as for example I can quite easily get through 250 litres on just one domestic property exterior clean.  I've found the more work you take on the larger van tank you will need as from my own experience I outgrew a 250 van tank very quickly even just  doing regular wfp window cleaning without doing any addons.

 What size van tank have you got now Smurf, only asking because i have a 500 litre tank and do a couple of commercial
 jobs every 6 months, 500 litres is not enough for either commercial job, so have to go home refill which takes around 4 hours
 then go back and finish off next day, so next year thinking of getting bigger van, plus bigger system.
 Lal

dazmond

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2016, 07:42:16 am »
youll get sick of lugging that thing about and changing barrels, couple that with a heavy,cumbersome pole its a very inefficient way of working WFP.

youll be slower than trad too for a few weeks.

i bet you end up leaving it in the van within a year hooked up to a tank! ;D

enjoy your foray into wfp though.we all find our own way of working with time and experience.

best wishes.
price higher/work harder!

JandS

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2016, 09:04:48 am »
What I'm worried about is the recommended flow rate, was told 20 - 40 litres a minute.....250 litres isn't going to last long at that flow rate so how do you make 250 litres last all day.
The trolley with 2 containers on is a piece of p to wheel about.
Most of my work is very compact so changing barrels straight from the van will not be a problem time to go soon and find out what I have let myself in for.
Dazmond...the pole is very light or seems it to me.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Smurf

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2016, 09:51:09 am »
Well I suppose that all depends on the amount/ type of work you do using purified water as for example I can quite easily get through 250 litres on just one domestic property exterior clean.  I've found the more work you take on the larger van tank you will need as from my own experience I outgrew a 250 van tank very quickly even just  doing regular wfp window cleaning without doing any addons.

 What size van tank have you got now Smurf, only asking because i have a 500 litre tank and do a couple of commercial
 jobs every 6 months, 500 litres is not enough for either commercial job, so have to go home refill which takes around 4 hours
 then go back and finish off next day, so next year thinking of getting bigger van, plus bigger system.
 Lal

I've temporary set up two tanks in the renault master so can carry about 600 litres in total of pure which does me for now.  I don't just do wfp work which makes it more complicated so I'm still playing around with the layout as to the best way to fully utilize the space in the back what with all the other gear I need to carry about for all the add-ons I do.

Regards to running out of pure on that job you mentioned could you not run an on demand ro/di system instead?
That's if you have access to an outside tap onsite so you have in effect an endless supply of pure water without the need to cart loads of water about.

SeanK

Re: The dark side.
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2016, 10:01:43 am »
What I'm worried about is the recommended flow rate, was told 20 - 40 litres a minute.....250 litres isn't going to last long at that flow rate so how do you make 250 litres last all day.
The trolley with 2 containers on is a piece of p to wheel about.
Most of my work is very compact so changing barrels straight from the van will not be a problem time to go soon and find out what I have let myself in for.
Dazmond...the pole is very light or seems it to me.

WHAT, who told you that ? your talking between 1 and 2ltrs per minute, even van mount systems with 7ltr per minute pumps
would be lucky to hit 3ltrs per minute flat out when put through the hose and brush jets.
On a repeat four weekly cleans one and a half litres per minute would be more than enough, I was told that about 15 to 20 litres
per averaged sized property (decent sized three bed semi or similar) should be what to aim for.
There will be times where more water will be needed, first cleans and one offs for example, but to be honest most guys with
large tanks including myself tend to waste water as its a comfort blanket and have plenty to spare.

That said you will be cutting it fine with such a small amount to use over the day and you may need to trad the odd ground floor
to make it stretch plus its always better to go overboard with water usage when starting out.

JandS

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2016, 11:29:46 am »
Says in instructions flow rate adjustable from 0 - 99 with 20 - 40 being the typical setting????
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Shrek

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Re: The dark side.
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2016, 11:32:52 am »
It all depends on the sizes of houses your going to be cleaning , id be lucky if iv any left at dinner time 350ltrs, but majority of my custys are detached with connys so I don't get through as many in a day as some others . But as long as you've got a water butt at home for storage you can nip home have dinner fill up and back out again . I have my flow rate on 35