[Smurf]

No why?

I'm talking about in general cleaners getting told to do jobs but the employer is not interested at all for their safety.

Typical example is this chap eventually jacked the job in because the employer would not provide him with the appropriate tools for the job.  He actually posted this pic himself on a forum to show the kind of jobs he was told to do by his employer. The chap in the pic risked his own neck just so his boss would gain an extra fiver for that glass conservatory roof clean. Makes you think don't it .

[CleanClear]

No why?

I'm talking about in general cleaners getting told to do jobs but the employer is not interested at all for their safety.

Typical example is this chap eventually jacked the job in because the employer would not provide him with the appropriate tools for the job.  He actually posted this pic himself on a forum to show the kind of jobs he was told to do by his employer. The chap in the pic risked his own neck just so his boss would gain an extra fiver for that glass conservatory roof clean. Makes you think don't it .

I'm thinking he aint all there in the head. How do you end up with the bottom four panels soaped up and end up on the second one in like that ? Its just looks totally inconcievable.

[Ian Lancaster]

What I call rouge employeers don't give two figs about H&S as tend to cut corners to keep their prices competitive and profits high.

Name, shame and leave them red faced, I say.

Need to make-up an accusation with a good foundation, I say.

Did he beat you to it?

Sorry Smurf, Granville was having a bit of gentle fun at your expense.  "Rouge" being the stuff ladies put on their cheeks after they've put on their "foundation", making them look a bit "red faced"

[Spruce]

What I call rouge employeers don't give two figs about H&S as tend to cut corners to keep their prices competitive and profits high.

Name, shame and leave them red faced, I say.

Need to make-up an accusation with a good foundation, I say.

Did he beat you to it?

Sorry Smurf, Granville was having a bit of gentle fun at your expense.  "Rouge" being the stuff ladies put on their cheeks after they've put on their "foundation", making them look a bit "red faced"

Thanks for explaining it Ian. Granvilles to far ahead of me I'm afraid.

[AuRavelling79]

Actually Griff started it, Miss, I was just led along.

[Lee Burbidge]

I didn't read all through this.... but get the gist. This post needs pulling. Lee does not need to explain himself. If the intention was to be helpful you would of done it privately.

[Smurf]

"rogue traders" I meant...Oops! 

[Smurf]

I didn't read all through this.... but get the gist. This post needs pulling. Lee does not need to explain himself. If the intention was to be helpful you would of done it privately.

I think the op was right in pointing out that Lee had lost work because of his firms bad reviews  on the tinternet.

[8weekly]

I didn't read all through this.... but get the gist. This post needs pulling. Lee does not need to explain himself. If the intention was to be helpful you would of done it privately.

I think the op was right in pointing out that Lee had lost work because of his firms bad reviews  on the tinternet.

But you think it takes half a day to clean the fascias on a bungalow.   

[Lee Pryor]

Its true I don't need to answer to anything.

Everyone knows its human nature to moan rather than praise. Not being funny but we are 10x the size of most one man bands, that means 10x everything, including problems not just the  money. The jobs worth that moaned about it not being 12 weeks stands out in my mind very clearly. That was a Thursday, the following Monday would have been exactly 12 weeks from our previous visit. He had fascias and gutters booked for that clean, over £200 job. When my worker arrived he made him wait at the door for 10 minutes while he found his diary. He then stood there making a fuss it had not been exactly 12 weeks and turned my chap away which halved his day! we were 2 working days early for god sake!

If you guys on here cant read between the lines with stuff like this then I'm very supprised. Then we have a woman who doesn't like text alerts and another who doesn't like leaflets through the door. Come on people!

I don't know why the chap that started this thread feels he is helping me. It seems more like a middle finger up at me. Why would you help a competitor? Who are you to be telling me what I should be doing to build a successful business? What are you? probably one man with 300 customers! Your very welcome to come down and advise me on how to run my business anytime. What a joke.

I'm glad to be so entertaining for everyone.

[Soupy]

Try not to take stuff posted on here too personally. If you choose to be open, you open yourself up.

[Smurf]

Lee, the way I see it I think it's more to do with your attitude to how you communicate with customers and deal with customer complaints that needs addressing. Throwing your toys out of the pram is not really the way to act if you are running a professional business no matter what size it is.

Just food for thought and all that.

[Lee Pryor]

your right soupy

I'm really not taking it personally. I actually find it quite funny.

[Smurf]

I can't see what's so funny about your firm having bad feedback posted on the internet for all to see regardless 

[Lee Pryor]

I didn't say I found that funny. Read it again and you will see what I was referring to.

[slap bash]

I have no dought Lee has a very successful business. But the chaps on here  make the successful businesses lager than life and built and  a  none fail image and  worship them.   Then when they find out their  superstar has the same problems as they do the bubble bursts and we are all shocked. Lee is just like us and has the same stumbling blocks.

[Smurf]

Most don't  pee people off so much that they feel compeled to leave bad feedback as some sort of payback.

[cgh window cleaning]

Most people feel the need to write complaints on the web because they don't have much else going on and they also hope to get something for free.
The bigger your company and number of staff the more chance of something going wrong and complaints arising.

Any one can see the complaints Lee is getting are from people who most of us would struggle to please.

[Lee Pryor]

Most people feel the need to write complaints on the web because they don't have much else going on and they also hope to get something for free.
The bigger your company and number of staff the more chance of something going wrong and complaints arising.

Any one can see the complaints Lee is getting are from people who most of us would struggle to please.

Finally, someone with an IQ above 100! I think that post pretty much sums up the reality.

[8weekly]

Most people feel the need to write complaints on the web because they don't have much else going on and they also hope to get something for free.
The bigger your company and number of staff the more chance of something going wrong and complaints arising.

Any one can see the complaints Lee is getting are from people who most of us would struggle to please.

Finally, someone with an IQ above 100! I think that post pretty much sums up the reality.

Although they do seem likel difficult to please people that you're probably well rid of, to be honest your communication skills really are pretty poor.