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Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« on: June 09, 2016, 01:23:43 pm »
Hi all , a commercial job rang me to go down and give a quote . I went today and after viewing the place , got talking to the manager and receptionist , they said they've got a window cleaner but head office have told them to ring me and see if I can beat their current price. Manager said reading between the lines , there's been communication problems with the windy .
I told him I'm not keen on giving a cheaper quote because in 6 months time , they could ring another windy and get an even cheaper quote and just keep pushing prices down . I said il send him an email....
I'm not cheap and the current price they're paying is what I'd call top dollar. I don't know how commercial jobs work as I'm 99% domestic

Would you send in a cheaper quote? it's a days trad work

Smurf

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 01:42:52 pm »
If I knew so say what they are paying already then if I was still interested in taking it on I would be inclined to quote the same if not more just for the craic as to me there seems more going on to what they are telling you.

Tosh

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 01:51:42 pm »
Days trad? £300.00. Thats your price.
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Smurf

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 01:57:18 pm »
Days trad? £300.00. Thats your price.

It could be a 3 storey buiding for all we know so how can you just pluck a price out of the sky without knowing what the job intails beats me  ;D


Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 02:59:42 pm »
It's a care home , all downstairs work inside and out 😃

Smurf

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 03:10:47 pm »
It's a care home , all downstairs work inside and out

Private run care homes now that's the business to be in. How many hundreds of pounds do they get  per room per week and they still want a so say cheaper windy.  Fookem I say  ::)roll

Tosh

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 04:56:03 pm »
Days trad? £300.00. Thats your price.

It could be a 3 storey buiding for all we know so how can you just pluck a price out of the sky without knowing what the job intails beats me  ;D

It wouldn't be traditional if that were the case. Shrek has WFP, so inline with the WAHD as he has WFP he would be obliged to use it. He's said its trad, so I'm assuming no law breaking would be taking place.
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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 05:07:26 pm »
Yes I agree! if someone asked me to trad a 3 storey building I'd tell them to get stuffed... Because I'm scared of heights! 😱

JSMC

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2016, 06:51:44 pm »
Care homes constantly do this. Guys up my way clean a monster of a place n money is very poor

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2016, 07:21:53 pm »
Care homes constantly do this. Guys up my way clean a monster of a place n money is very poor

Joe would that be in Lesmahagow by any chance?

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2016, 07:22:39 pm »
Care homes constantly do this. Guys up my way clean a monster of a place n money is very poor

Joe would that be in Lesmahagow by any chance?

nathankaye

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2016, 08:25:50 pm »
My x mrs worked in a private company which dealt with troubled kids care homes.
They had a seperate windy per house, 3 houses. By houses i mean mansions. But the company wanted one windy to do all 3 plus main offices and asked me to price  job up, so i did. Knowing hiw much they git per child per night from the council (ridiculous money) and priced accordingly with petrol etc on top. This is when i was trad cleaning. I left at 7am and back home by 1/2ish and did this every 2 wks. Had all needed checks done, they was even going to train me on how to restrain the kids if help was needed (kids/teens with issues), as you could easily be on young offenders records by doing so wrongly.
Then all of a sudden it became increasingly harder to get paid. They kept asking to cut prices, they were getting thousands per child per night. Eventually they declared bankruptcy, changed name, got a cheaper cleaner and simply continued. Its cut throat commercial, stay away from it. I do
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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2016, 08:29:14 pm »
Did you you put your best price in ? a price that you worked out to be fair and reasonable ? Then stick to that price.

My take on reducing prices is this - the customer expected you to price up the job fairly and provide a service - now your level of service may well be over what the customer wants/expects, ( for example I recently quoted to do gutter clear, sfg wash, conny roof, windows and pw path - customer comes back wanting £80 off the price - no problem, which of the above services do you want me leave out ? )

If you can slash a portion off your quote ( remember this is a quote not estimate ) then as a customer I would think you tried to turn me over in the first place

Darran
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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2016, 11:06:48 pm »
I cleaned a 20 bed residential care home for dementia patients. Place was minging. First clean took ages but thought ok as second clean would be a lot quicker. Quoted 6 to 8 weekly they said they would prefer 8 to 10 weeks.  :(
 I went along with it and when I rang to make second appointment they said they would call when they needed doing again.  >:( >:( >:( I will probably decline politely as they will be back minging again.

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2016, 08:08:47 am »
You can't beat a good solid, well priced regular domestic round!

  ;)

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2016, 08:15:48 am »
Well. This depends really if you need or want the work.

If you know the price they are paying and your quote would have been less regardless I would have no qualms about doing it.

If the cure price is what you would normally charge but you need the work enough to undercut them then that's up to you. Most people frown on undercutting but if you need the work to pay your bills feck em you do what you have to do. This doesn't sound like the case here but still.

End of the day do what you want to do what anyone else thinks doesn't matter. Do you want the work ? If so get it

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2016, 12:18:52 pm »
Would you send in a cheaper quote? it's a days trad work

I'll bet i'm not the only one who would, without even thinking about it !!!  ;D
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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2016, 05:49:44 pm »
I don't bother with homes because the people that run them are very greedy people, I quoted one about fifteen years ago and at that time it was an 120 pound clean they managed to get a cleaner for £30 ,a friend of mine just done a new home just been built over 100 rooms he did the clean for £200 which I thought was well under priced that was ins plus out three story build, he did the clean then they told him they had some one cheaper that y I don't bother with them

Spruce

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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2016, 07:32:39 pm »
What you might find is that they give the cleaners at the home a couple of bucks onto their pay to do it 'out of hours'.

Its impossible to compete with that - not that you would want to. There will always be one of two that would do it for the extra money.
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Re: Commercial job wanting a cheaper price
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2016, 09:02:23 pm »
I know several managers that "have" their partner do the windows of care homes I'll let you put 2 and 2 together

Darran
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