4x4 is what I really wanted. The van is almost perfect apart from grip. It could be even better if it had a few other options like double sliding doors and ply lining (something to screw bits and pieces to.) Its geared up for ease of working, all poles facing the back and ready to go, ladders inside for gate hopping, backpack ready by the side door, gutter vac and poles ready. Tank fill hole handy. I just couldn't replicate it in a pick up. I thought I might but sure I'd regret it. Also have a new family car anyway.