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Dave Willis

Silicone bends?
« on: March 09, 2016, 08:47:12 am »
I want to make a ninety degree bend on my vac pole. Who supplies silicone bends ? Can't remember the diameter off hand of my superlight section but I'll have a look later.


Dave Willis

Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 10:07:59 am »
Cheers bought one (misleading price though - it mysteriously doubled at the checkout).

Smurf

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Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 10:52:43 pm »
Why do you need a 90 degree Dave?

Dave Willis

Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 07:46:42 am »
 ???iI have a massive conservatory roof clean to do Saturday. One where the roof slopes down to the building. Gutter isn't wide enough to walk along so I'll use my vacpoles and feed them in from the side to suck the crud ņut. In the past I,ve shoved the vac hose along but the nozzle is pointing the wrong wayto get the best suction.
Still might end up crawling over the glass  ::)roll

dazmond

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Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 08:58:34 am »
???iI have a massive conservatory roof clean to do Saturday. One where the roof slopes down to the building. Gutter isn't wide enough to walk along so I'll use my vacpoles and feed them in from the side to suck the crud ņut. In the past I,ve shoved the vac hose along but the nozzle is pointing the wrong wayto get the best suction.
Still might end up crawling over the glass  ::)roll

you ve been in this game for years dave so im sure your a bit older and wiser than to risk your neck(and the customers property)by walking/crawling on a glass roof.its just not worth the risk.
price higher/work harder!

Smurf

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Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 10:08:35 am »
???iI have a massive conservatory roof clean to do Saturday. One where the roof slopes down to the building. Gutter isn't wide enough to walk along so I'll use my vacpoles and feed them in from the side to suck the crud ņut. In the past I,ve shoved the vac hose along but the nozzle is pointing the wrong wayto get the best suction.
Still might end up crawling over the glass  ::)roll

Thanks Dave, I thought that was the reason why you wanted a 90

To clear out box gullies/gutters like that I've found them very awkward to do access wise and most are very tight to get gutttervac tools in but still doable one way or another. Lead flashing and internal brackets getting in the way does my head in though.

Myself I use various silicone bends for the task 45, 90 either 51mm-51mm or 51mm to 38mm reducer and  standard 135 degree 51mm with or without nozzles.

Regards to guttervac nozzles I discovered a great tool which is just using the handle part of a commercial wet/dry vac plastic 3 section floor tool I already have. It just pushes into a 51mm silicone bend and can be twisted around to adjust the angle you want to work at depending where you are working from. If the gap is much smaller then will try to use a crevice tool but is a right pain in the arse to use as is forever getting blocked.

At the end of the day after trying I would rather say I can't do the job than go clambering over a conservatory roof  that's for sure.

 

Smurf

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Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2016, 10:58:29 am »
This is the floor tool handle I was on about as can be  used with any 51mm degree silicone bend and turned around any way you want it.

Smurf

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Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2016, 11:04:03 am »
Made this job a breeze to clear out the awkward conservatory gutter down the side and the one by the flat roof.
Not to menton the flat roof gutter above it.  :D

Best practice whilst working on awkward to reach gutters like that is you gaffer tape whatever bend and nozzle you want to use as the last thing you want is for them to come off the pole. Also would be a wise move if using more than one carbon pole sections to gaffer tape the joints too so they don't come apart  as nozzles can and do get jammed.

Dave Willis

Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2016, 12:40:16 pm »
Yep that's pretty much what I have in mind. I tried a jetwash drain cleaner once, the plan was it would blast the muck backwards ......... most of it ended up splattered over their dining table below  :o

Dave Willis

Re: Silicone bends?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2016, 12:43:54 pm »
???iI have a massive conservatory roof clean to do Saturday. One where the roof slopes down to the building. Gutter isn't wide enough to walk along so I'll use my vacpoles and feed them in from the side to suck the crud ņut. In the past I,ve shoved the vac hose along but the nozzle is pointing the wrong wayto get the best suction.
Still might end up crawling over the glass  ::)roll

you ve been in this game for years dave so im sure your a bit older and wiser than to risk your neck(and the customers property)by walking/crawling on a glass roof.its just not worth the risk.
                                                                   I've found glass roofs to be very strong and have crawled along them up against the wall in the past or walked on the beams. Don't like it but for £200 I risk it.

Smurf

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Re: Silicone bends? New
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2016, 01:25:25 pm »
???iI have a massive conservatory roof clean to do Saturday. One where the roof slopes down to the building. Gutter isn't wide enough to walk along so I'll use my vacpoles and feed them in from the side to suck the crud ņut. In the past I,ve shoved the vac hose along but the nozzle is pointing the wrong wayto get the best suction.
Still might end up crawling over the glass  ::)roll

you ve been in this game for years dave so im sure your a bit older and wiser than to risk your neck(and the customers property)by walking/crawling on a glass roof.its just not worth the risk.
                                                                   I've found glass roofs to be very strong and have crawled along them up against the wall in the past or walked on the beams. Don't like it but for £200 I risk it.

I know installers clamber all over them but that don't mean we should.

Most have taken many risks over the years like myself just to get the job done no matter what it was just to earn a few bob.
As you get older after having a few close calls along the way or worst taken a fall you start to wise up a wee bit as no matter how much the job is not worth the risk when other safer methods are available.

I've not failed yet to clear awkward conservatory gutters one way or another without the need to go climbing over them.
Before using carbon guttervac poles I tended to use a stripped down wfp with an long plastic angle crank. Then just strap to it  a 38mm plastic suction hose with a crevice tool on the end to fit into really tight gaps.