[Smurf]

I'm waiting for the likes of seank or cumbucket to chip in myself. Then the folks that prefer to franchise out the work instead of employing.

[richard groves]

Talking about ripping people off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2zx0SDpJc
Waving a 60 foot stick about in the middle of a road has got to be worth more £7 per hour surely 

Put it another way James would you want to clean that premier inn building for only £7 an hour yourself ?
I don't know how you can sleep at night  mucker and I'm betting the lads on the pole also did not get much sleep with the pain they where in afterwards...Shame on you 

that takes me back, been there and done the same for somebody else

Barry, I'm betting it did not take you long to say stick yer job where the sun don't shine either 

Not quite, nearly 2 years, but that was 10 years ago !
you could sit behind a checkout in Lidls for a better hourly rate than that 

[8weekly]

I have to agree. £7 an hour is way too low.

[SeanK]

I'm waiting for the likes of seank or cumbucket to chip in myself. Then the folks that prefer to franchise out the work instead of employing.

OK then, James great post, Smurf as per usual your nothing but a buffoon.

[Smurf]

I'm waiting for the likes of seank or cumbucket to chip in myself. Then the folks that prefer to franchise out the work instead of employing.

OK then, James great post, Smurf as per usual your nothing but a buffoon.

 

[Smurf]

Talking about ripping people off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2zx0SDpJc
Waving a 60 foot stick about in the middle of a road has got to be worth more £7 per hour surely 

Put it another way James would you want to clean that premier inn building for only £7 an hour yourself ?
I don't know how you can sleep at night  mucker and I'm betting the lads on the pole also did not get much sleep with the pain they where in afterwards...Shame on you 

that takes me back, been there and done the same for somebody else

Barry, I'm betting it did not take you long to say stick yer job where the sun don't shine either 

Not quite, nearly 2 years, but that was 10 years ago !
you could sit behind a checkout in Lidls for a better hourly rate than that 

Nearly 2 years was you raving bonkers or just a bit slow in figuring it out you where being taking for a ride

[richard groves]

Smurf, 12 years ago £7 ph was not so bad for a div like me,
having returned from overseas and having a pre school child at the time I was greatful for a boss who allowed me flexible hours. Its easy to get stuck in waged employment with bills to pay and took time to save money and find courage to step outside of that. But a 40 hour week in 2016 30p an hour over the minimum wage is shocking. I doubt the employee it would attract would feel appreciated or as you quite rightly point out retained for very long.

[ascjim]

Although it doesn't include the other associated costs - van, fuel, insurance etc, assuming they are out on their own.

Yes your right, this is just for general employing. The running expenses will be posted next week 

[ascjim]

Although it doesn't include the other associated costs - van, fuel, insurance etc, assuming they are out on their own.

Nor includes recruitment, training, workware, ppe costs and most importantly employees going sick,  being unreliable, doing shoddy work, upsetting customers, ripping the firm off and all the hassle that goes with employing people especially when being paid low wages.  It's not as simple as people make out it to be which can put a lot of people off employing surely?

This post is just the cost of employing. Not running costs.

If you employ someone good, surley you won't have these problems.

£7.00 per hour is an example. My guys get £9.00 ph.

[ascjim]

You VAT registered James.

Flat rate at 12% works best for us.

[ascjim]

I have to agree. £7 an hour is way too low.

It's just an example.

[ascjim]

Smurf, 12 years ago £7 ph was not so bad for a div like me,
having returned from overseas and having a pre school child at the time I was greatful for a boss who allowed me flexible hours. Its easy to get stuck in waged employment with bills to pay and took time to save money and find courage to step outside of that. But a 40 hour week in 2016 30p an hour over the minimum wage is shocking. I doubt the employee it would attract would feel appreciated or as you quite rightly point out retained for very long.

Please read it, it states its an example. My guys get £9.00 ph.

[richard groves]

Smurf, 12 years ago £7 ph was not so bad for a div like me,
having returned from overseas and having a pre school child at the time I was greatful for a boss who allowed me flexible hours. Its easy to get stuck in waged employment with bills to pay and took time to save money and find courage to step outside of that. But a 40 hour week in 2016 30p an hour over the minimum wage is shocking. I doubt the employee it would attract would feel appreciated or as you quite rightly point out retained for very long.

Please read it, it states its an example. My guys get £9.00 ph.

I did read and replied to  smurfs comment and what you had written at that time which then led us to believe you were paying £7 ph.

[Smurf]

Smurf, 12 years ago £7 ph was not so bad for a div like me,
having returned from overseas and having a pre school child at the time I was greatful for a boss who allowed me flexible hours. Its easy to get stuck in waged employment with bills to pay and took time to save money and find courage to step outside of that. But a 40 hour week in 2016 30p an hour over the minimum wage is shocking. I doubt the employee it would attract would feel appreciated or as you quite rightly point out retained for very long.

Please read it, it states its an example. My guys get £9.00 ph.

Sorry James so why did you not do the figures based on £9.00 ph then as would have been a more realistic example on what window cleaning employees get paid surely?

[NWH]

£9-10 an hour is fair enough I reckon.

[Clever Forum Name]

Yeah James do it on £9 and £10 per hour.

I'm too stupid to work it out for myself 

[NWH]

Lol it's either another 40 a week or 80 you donut 😂😂😂😂

[Mick Kent]

I just took this from another thread on employing copsts that you wrote James...
Make your mind up how much you pay! Is it £7 £9 or £10 ph??
Also your deluded to think you get £140 profit for a day on a 2 man van!!




The holiday and sick comes out of the profit.

They get paid £10.00 per hour = £80.00 per day.
 
2 man van takes a bare minimum of £300.00 so £140.00 profit for the day.
Some gutter days it can go to £400 - £500 and the best I've had from one van is around £900.00

I only have 3 guys. In 2 vans.

1 is working all the regular domestic work.
There other 2 also have regular domestic work, but have the gutter vac in the van.

So van 1 is always busy all year.
Van 2 takes all the new work coming in and big jobs.

I take £3000.00 a month and the rest stays in the business account.

I work 9-11 on the computer then go gym until 1 and then do quotes after if I need to.

All you need to do is plan your day / month / year in advance and set goals.

[ascjim]

I just took this from another thread on employing copsts that you wrote James...
Make your mind up how much you pay! Is it £7 £9 or £10 ph??
Also your deluded to think you get £140 profit for a day on a 2 man van!!

Yeah my supervisor gets £10




The holiday and sick comes out of the profit.

They get paid £10.00 per hour = £80.00 per day.
 
2 man van takes a bare minimum of £300.00 so £140.00 profit for the day.
Some gutter days it can go to £400 - £500 and the best I've had from one van is around £900.00

I only have 3 guys. In 2 vans.

1 is working all the regular domestic work.
There other 2 also have regular domestic work, but have the gutter vac in the van.

So van 1 is always busy all year.
Van 2 takes all the new work coming in and big jobs.

I take £3000.00 a month and the rest stays in the business account.

I work 9-11 on the computer then go gym until 1 and then do quotes after if I need to.

All you need to do is plan your day / month / year in advance and set goals.

Yeah my supervisor gets £10.00.

[ascjim]

This wasn't just written for window cleaners. It's for ANYONE that wants to employ. It isn't just posted here.

The minimum wage is £6.70, so I rounded it up to make things simple.

It does state the blog post was for ANYONE wanting to employ.

Thanks for the good and positive comments, you guys will go far, you have the right attitude. 

And to the rest, try and not put a downer on everything, life is too short.