[Smurf]

If companies can aford to buy and run ionic zero systems then why not is what I say...Good luck to them 

[Clever Forum Name]

Been using PPB for nearly 6 years. What makes me laugh is ionics do not supply the correct equipment to check the purity. I however have the technology to check it (albeit i have to return it)

[Dave Willis]

.......... and the difference is?

[Smurf]

cleaner windows obviously 

.......... and the difference is?

Been using PPB for nearly 6 years. What makes me laugh is ionics do not supply the correct equipment to check the purity. I however have the technology to check it (albeit i have to return it)

[Dave Willis]

Oh, cleaner than clean then.

[Smurf]

Oh, cleaner than clean then.

Much cleaner than that obviously or people would not use it surely 

[Dave Willis]

You see, what I can't understand is if No23,  is who I think he is, he must be using zero tds per billion but then chucks in a well known additive used on here because the water obviously isn't good enough on its own (which raises the tds anyway) - makes no sense to my small brain.

[SeanK]

Oh, cleaner than clean then.

Well if Daz can get clothes whiter than white there must be a product that can get a window cleaner than clean.

[Smurf]

Oh, cleaner than clean then.

Well if Daz can get clothes whiter than white there must be a product that can get a window cleaner than clean.

Well obviously...der! 

[Bungle]

What's the point of spending  big bucks on ppb if custy's insides are minging? They don't look out and think Ooh thank god my windy has spent thousands on a set up, but I still can't see frack all out of my windows. It's all a big billy boo locks look at me swagger shiite I must be good at this cuz I spent 10 numpty grand on a mount. Fickle freekin fickle it is. Hate these big spenders who can't even blade too

[Smurf]

What's the point of spending  big bucks on ppb if custy's insides are minging? They don't look out and think Ooh thank god my windy has spent thousands on a set up, but I still can't see frack all out of my windows. It's all a big billy boo locks look at me swagger shiite I must be good at this cuz I spent 10 numpty grand on a mount. Fickle freekin fickle it is. Hate these big spenders who can't even blade too

What's a blade is that something sharp?
If so my missus don't let me near things like that   

[NWH]

Think about it there is absolutely no difference in PPB and PPM you cannot see spots on the glass with PPM and the same goes for PPB,if you speak to the real experts that sell this equipment like I have they will all tell you the same. It's purely a marketing tool they are using in order to get you to send 10k plus,you can get the same end product after RO which is around 4PPM before resin meaning you'll get 000 for months and month out of a sack of resin. 80-130 ltrs an hour system will cost you around £2300 incl vat giving you the same production rates.

[Smurf]

Think about it there is absolutely no difference in PPB and PPM you cannot see spots on the glass with PPM and the same goes for PPB,if you speak to the real experts that sell this equipment like I have they will all tell you the same. It's purely a marketing tool they are using in order to get you to send 10k plus,you can get the same end product after RO which is around 4PPM before resin meaning you'll get 000 for months and month out of a sack of resin. 80-130 ltrs an hour system will cost you around £2300 incl vat giving you the same production rates.

How do you know for sure the actual purity of the water makes no difference when cleaning filthy glass if you have not tried it?
Most that have brought zero systems  seem be involved in less frequenly cleans on larger/taller cleaning contracts than the run of the mill smaller domestic stuff. There must be a good reason why they invest in ppb systems surely as they are not wet behind the ears so to speak?

[Clever Forum Name]

You see, what I can't understand is if No23,  is who I think he is, he must be using zero tds per billion but then chucks in a well known additive used on here because the water obviously isn't good enough on its own (which raises the tds anyway) - makes no sense to my small brain.

I use PPB as all the equipment was free and at the moment i have enough resin to last i would say 10 years (assuming it doesn't go off) So i just use PPB as its free.

As for cleaner windows, meh.

And yep i still use Vision.

[Clever Forum Name]

You see, what I can't understand is if No23,  is who I think he is, he must be using zero tds per billion but then chucks in a well known additive used on here because the water obviously isn't good enough on its own (which raises the tds anyway) - makes no sense to my small brain.

I use PPB as all the equipment was free and at the moment i have enough resin to last i would say 10 years (assuming it doesn't go off) So i just use PPB as its free.

As for cleaner windows, meh.

And yep i still use Vision.

I think that about says it all guys, hope any newbies reading this post will realise that not everybody on here is
handing out free information or looking to help.

L  L

[Clever Forum Name]

I clicked my posts at random. Here's just one example.

It's guys like you Sean why I no longer can be bothered with posting anything really useful on here.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=197211.msg1717020#msg1717020

Would you like a link to my YouTube channel as well? Where I do videos to help the trade?

[SeanK]

You see, what I can't understand is if No23,  is who I think he is, he must be using zero tds per billion but then chucks in a well known additive used on here because the water obviously isn't good enough on its own (which raises the tds anyway) - makes no sense to my small brain.

I use PPB as all the equipment was free and at the moment i have enough resin to last i would say 10 years (assuming it doesn't go off) So i just use PPB as its free.

As for cleaner windows, meh.

And yep i still use Vision.

I think that about says it all guys, hope any newbies reading this post will realise that not everybody on here is
handing out free information or looking to help.

L  L

Very sorry about this 23 came on here last night a few beers worse for wear (no excuse) and replied to the wrong post and section for that matter would have removed the comment if you hadn't already replied to it. Very sorry.

[KS Cleaning]

You see, what I can't understand is if No23,  is who I think he is, he must be using zero tds per billion but then chucks in a well known additive used on here because the water obviously isn't good enough on its own (which raises the tds anyway) - makes no sense to my small brain.

I use PPB as all the equipment was free and at the moment i have enough resin to last i would say 10 years (assuming it doesn't go off) So i just use PPB as its free.

As for cleaner windows, meh.

And yep i still use Vision.

I think that about says it all guys, hope any newbies reading this post will realise that not everybody on here is
handing out free information or looking to help.

L  L

Very sorry about this 23 came on here last night a few beers worse for wear (no excuse) and replied to the wrong post and section for that matter would have removed the comment if you hadn't already replied to it. Very sorry.

That's what I like about Sean, he isn't afraid to swallow his pride and apologise if he gets something wrong

[Walter Mitty]

Although I'm reluctant to admit to it on here, my van is fitted out by Ionics.  None of this ppb stuff though.
Bear with me a moment:  The right sort of credit (no deposit) was tricky for me to obtain and I got an all-in deal for a new van with a delivery unit (I purify my water in a lock-up); they could turn the whole thing around in under two weeks (including sourcing the vehicle) saving me a few hundred on van hire and saving my body from more weeks of lugging a backpack around.  Yes, I do think that Ionics' marketing is creative (to put it mildly), but they were the only ones around at that time that could get me what I needed with the least headachs.  I accept that it will probably cost me extra over time, but the alternative was renting a Transit long term with no system.  The extra I will be paying over 5 years is probably less than the extra I will be able to earn.
The big mistake I made was waiting unil my old van was giving big problems; it left me short on choices.  If there had been more choices, I could have saved myself some money - but I didn't have money to lay out when I needed it.

[Smurf]

There is nothing to be ashamed of by owning an ionic setup