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Ian101

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Daz and his shifting sands !!
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:10:47 pm »
flipping heck this week ... so far had the following

1 x cancellation as wanted tri monthly for same price as monthly  ::)roll ... told her no chance said she may call me back in spring ... fine but will be at "new customer price"  which will be at least £8 more and will be monthly only  ... must wait by phone for her call

1x can you do it every other till spring ... said yes as its a very easy £14 15minute job and she is quite fit

1x im off to Australia so ur cancelled   ... nice bloke and was my second ever customer back when I first started

1x ive had my hours cut so your cancelled

1 x were moving out so your cancelled

1 x our friend son is going to be doing them  ::)roll ....

on plus side picked up
£40 bimonthly
£12 monthly
£14 monthly
£12 monthly
£12 bimonthly gone monthly so feels like another job gained

think im slightly ahead £££ wise and may get the new owners of people moving

Smurf

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 06:20:59 pm »
That for some on here sounds like just a normal day  ;D

Ian101

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 06:23:53 pm »
That for some on here sounds like just a normal day  ;D

its all been well settled for ages ... sure odd one goes awol every now and again ... death divorce debt moving house etc but all hit at once this week  :)

8weekly

Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 07:03:32 pm »
Rust Never Sleeps. Great album.

But your post proves that unless you are continually generating new work, at best you will be standing still. Incidentally, since January we have added £55,000 annual turnover in regular 4 & 8 weekly jobs.  Not bad eh?  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 08:14:27 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D

8weekly

Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 08:16:50 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain. 

AuRavelling79

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !! New
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 08:30:38 pm »
Down at the bottom end of the market where I live the hard nosed "dump the messer" plan is paying off - eventually.

Mrs G. (Fit, early forties - but a rubbish payer who bounced a cheque on me in March 2014 - I got my money and dumped) Pulls up and flashes a coquettish smile from her Range-rover "I don't suppose you want to take me back on ... "

Gold: "Not really Mrs G. Once bitten twice shy and all that ... "

Mrs G. "How about if I set up a direct debit?"

Gold: "Well that makes sense but you might find what I say next a bit much but I'm going to say it anyway ... when the money goes in then I'll clean, not before."

Mrs G. "Fair enough."

A few days later she texts me with a screenshot of her Direct Debit and asks me when I'll clean.

I text back not before end of October. So the money has been with me for three days and I'll clean in about 3 weeks time.

So that's nice.

...

And - Mr B.

Comes over all apologetic about the "mix up with payments" (which resulted in me dumping his wife) and cutting a long story short I told him the only way I would clean for them again is if the money goes in first. He agreed, offered cash to "do it today" but I didn't have time.

We shall see.

...

And - Mrs F. (Remember the one who said sending a cheque was a chore?)

Sees me do her neighbours windows, turns her back on me and flounces indoors. (I guess she understands I'm not going back.)

It's a game of three halves!

Smurf

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 08:41:01 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain.

Is that inclusive of VAT or without as surely you must be compulsory vat registered by now?  ;D

8weekly

Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 08:47:58 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain.

Is that inclusive of VAT or without as surely you must be compulsory vat registered by now?  ;D
Without. Not VAT reg yet. It's a new company from 1st April & we've not hit the threshold this year. In truth, VAT will have to be absorbed for a lot of that work when we hit it.  :(

Walter Mitty

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 08:50:00 pm »

And - Mrs F. (Remember the one who said sending a cheque was a chore?)

Sees me do her neighbours windows, turns her back on me and flounces indoors. (I guess she understands I'm not going back.)

A flouncer?  Have you been giving lessons? :)

sunshine windows

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 08:55:55 pm »
As long as you're still growing Ian, that's the main thing.

That's great going 8 weekly. Not far behind you, but I can't tell for sure an exact figure as cleanerplanner was forecasting 13 cleans a year for the monthly jobs when I initially started using it. Made all my rounds give me an over inflated figure which was a right cock up
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

AuRavelling79

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 10:26:27 pm »

And - Mrs F. (Remember the one who said sending a cheque was a chore?)

Sees me do her neighbours windows, turns her back on me and flounces indoors. (I guess she understands I'm not going back.)

A flouncer?  Have you been giving lessons? :)

If you'd read the post properly you'd have seen there was a flouncer and a bouncer in it.
It's a game of three halves!

Ian101

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2015, 11:00:02 pm »
Rust Never Sleeps. Great album.

But your post proves that unless you are continually generating new work, at best you will be standing still. Incidentally, since January we have added £55,000 annual turnover in regular 4 & 8 weekly jobs.  Not bad eh?  ;D

Well thats peed over my measley 14000 grand since jan

8weekly

Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2015, 06:36:42 am »
Rust Never Sleeps. Great album.

But your post proves that unless you are continually generating new work, at best you will be standing still. Incidentally, since January we have added £55,000 annual turnover in regular 4 & 8 weekly jobs.  Not bad eh?  ;D

Well thats peed over my measley 14000 grand since jan
But I doubt you have your wife spending two hours a day every day dropping leaflets. Not that they work mind.  ;D

Ian101

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2015, 07:50:00 am »
Rust Never Sleeps. Great album.

But your post proves that unless you are continually generating new work, at best you will be standing still. Incidentally, since January we have added £55,000 annual turnover in regular 4 & 8 weekly jobs.  Not bad eh?  ;D

Well thats peed over my measley 14000 grand since jan
But I doubt you have your wife spending two hours a day every day dropping leaflets. Not that they work mind.  ;D

no they're rubbish ... was only speaking to someone who has built a 3 or 4 van franchise off leaflets ... he said utter waste of time dropping leaflets  ;)

Tom-01

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 11:47:15 am »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain.

Is that inclusive of VAT or without as surely you must be compulsory vat registered by now?  ;D
Without. Not VAT reg yet. It's a new company from 1st April & we've not hit the threshold this year. In truth, VAT will have to be absorbed for a lot of that work when we hit it.  :(

Hi mate

Didn't you say you were pricing plus VAT for all new stuff? I may have that wrong.

I went way over the threshold so will have a bill to pay, but from November structuring things differently business wise. How many leaflets have you put out since January?

Thanks
Tom

8weekly

Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2015, 05:06:21 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain.

Is that inclusive of VAT or without as surely you must be compulsory vat registered by now?  ;D
Without. Not VAT reg yet. It's a new company from 1st April & we've not hit the threshold this year. In truth, VAT will have to be absorbed for a lot of that work when we hit it.  :(

Hi mate

Didn't you say you were pricing plus VAT for all new stuff? I may have that wrong.

I went way over the threshold so will have a bill to pay, but from November structuring things differently business wise. How many leaflets have you put out since January?

Thanks
Tom
No, that would be illegal I'm pretty sure. What I said (I think) was that new prices had VAT factored in but that I would add the VAT to many, many older customers.

I'm not sure on the number delivered as I order 10,000 at a time and then reorder when I run out. I haven't kept track to be honest. But approximately 400 hours spent leafleting.

Smurf

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2015, 05:25:42 pm »
You have to be registered for VAT either voluntary or compulsory before you can start charging customers VAT surely?  ::)roll

Tom-01

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2015, 05:25:51 pm »
but lost 75k aswell  ;D
Lost some, but 55 is the net gain.

Is that inclusive of VAT or without as surely you must be compulsory vat registered by now?  ;D
Without. Not VAT reg yet. It's a new company from 1st April & we've not hit the threshold this year. In truth, VAT will have to be absorbed for a lot of that work when we hit it.  :(

Hi mate

Didn't you say you were pricing plus VAT for all new stuff? I may have that wrong.

I went way over the threshold so will have a bill to pay, but from November structuring things differently business wise. How many leaflets have you put out since January?

Thanks
Tom
No, that would be illegal I'm pretty sure. What I said (I think) was that new prices had VAT factored in but that I would add the VAT to many, many older customers.

I'm not sure on the number delivered as I order 10,000 at a time and then reorder when I run out. I haven't kept track to be honest. But approximately 400 hours spent leafleting.
Ah got ya. Of course, you're not VAT reg yet so can't plus VAT until you are. Or like you say factor it into the price.

400 hours thats good. Do you field all the calls/enquiries yourself? Who do you use for the leafleting? Do you have all your prices on the leaflet?

Thanks
Tom

Tom-01

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Re: Daz and his shifting sands !!
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2015, 05:27:59 pm »
You have to be registered for VAT either voluntary or compulsory before you can start charging customers VAT surely?  ::)roll

Not technically I don't think? For example if you have a £20 house, you would just say the price is £24, then that £4 you pay your VAT bill with. Maybe have your VAT number on the bill.