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Nick M

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Bleach residue on floor?
« on: October 01, 2015, 09:17:58 pm »
Hi all,

My cleaners at the below site cleaned the grout on this tiled floor with neat bleach last week.

As you can see its left a lot of residue on the tiles which looks unsightly. The customer called me today to ask if I can remove this. I tried to remove a mild acid cleaner with no luck.

Can anyone suggest what has happened here and how to remove the stains?

They appear to be glazed ceramic of porcelain tiles? Can these be polished to a high shine also? Can someone recommend a product to use with my high speed burnisher if so? Or can I just use a light coulered pad and no product?

Many thanks

Nick

nickmills84@yahoo.co.uk




Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 06:59:48 am »
I am slightly confused in that, if you have decided it is bleach residue as per your post, why not just clean the residue off the floor with a non caustic alkaline cleaner?

I am also intrigued as to why a professional cleaning company would let cleaners use bleach to clean tile & grout!!!
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Nick M

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 08:23:11 am »
Wow....thanks for the positive, constructive response. 

Not 100% sure you should be questioning  my company without knowing the first thing about it.

Actually the cleaners took it upon themselves to clean the grout and I'm just keen to fix the situation.

As a director of a cleaning company and not a hard floor restoration specialist, I don't pretend to be an expert in all areas of cleaning. That's why I visit forums such as this looking for advice in some areas.

Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 10:01:06 am »
Wow....thanks for the positive, constructive response. 

Not 100% sure you should be questioning  my company without knowing the first thing about it.

Actually the cleaners took it upon themselves to clean the grout and I'm just keen to fix the situation.

As a director of a cleaning company and not a hard floor restoration specialist, I don't pretend to be an expert in all areas of cleaning. That's why I visit forums such as this looking for advice in some areas.

Nick

I have helped you and have given you advice on several occasions on  various floors over the last 3 years and would hope that the advice offered previously has been correct and accurate!

The point of the the reply is to highlight that you don't know the staining is caused by bleach residue,  do you?   If it was,  you simply need to clean the residue off by rinsing!  Moreover, as an aside if anyone in my employment took it on themselves to clean a floor with any product not supplied by me  or not specifically in my RAMS and Instructions  they would be looking for another job period.  Rant Over!!!

Now to the task,  the floor looks like it may be either honed limestone or porcelain bearing this in mind I would conduct a test area  as follows:

1.  Pre wet one of the stained areas with clean water
2.  Agitate with a Mono Rotary fitted with either a natural hair or blue pad
3.  Sprinkle in a little of 400 Grit honing powder and agitate again
4.  Extract with a wet vacuum
5.  Rinse and extract again

If it removes the stain,  just crack on and do the whole floor.   If it doesn't e mail me a close up photo of one of the stones with a stain on so I have more chance of identifying it or if it is in a commercial installation ask to see the O&M Manual for the floor.

Kevin
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 07:46:33 pm »
Hi all,

My cleaners at the below site cleaned the grout on this tiled floor with neat bleach last week.

As you can see its left a lot of residue on the tiles which looks unsightly. The customer called me today to ask if I can remove this. I tried to remove a mild acid cleaner with no luck.

Can anyone suggest what has happened here and how to remove the stains?

They appear to be glazed ceramic of porcelain tiles? Can these be polished to a high shine also? Can someone recommend a product to use with my high speed burnisher if so? Or can I just use a light coulered pad and no product?

Many thanks

Nick

nickmills84@yahoo.co.uk




Hi Nick, i will send you information on a new cleaning technology that is safe and effective to deep clean grout lines or for that matter any kind of hardfloor you ever come across, it will also give you peace of mind because it can be used effectively at a dilution of 30-1 and even if a member of your staff used it neat by mistake on any surface it will not cause any damage whatsoever, its also far more cost effective than using neat bleach. Tadgh

Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2015, 08:02:00 am »
Hi all,

My cleaners at the below site cleaned the grout on this tiled floor with neat bleach last week.

As you can see its left a lot of residue on the tiles which looks unsightly. The customer called me today to ask if I can remove this. I tried to remove a mild acid cleaner with no luck.

Can anyone suggest what has happened here and how to remove the stains?

They appear to be glazed ceramic of porcelain tiles? Can these be polished to a high shine also? Can someone recommend a product to use with my high speed burnisher if so? Or can I just use a light coulered pad and no product?

Many thanks

Nick

nickmills84@yahoo.co.uk




Hi Nick, i will send you information on a new cleaning technology that is safe and effective to deep clean grout lines or for that matter any kind of hardfloor you ever come across, it will also give you peace of mind because it can be used effectively at a dilution of 30-1 and even if a member of your staff used it neat by mistake on any surface it will not cause any damage whatsoever, its also far more cost effective than using neat bleach. Tadgh

Tadgh

Thank you for contributing to the post, the offer of help for future cleaning will be appreciated by Nick I am sure.

In the meantime  Nick is really looking for help to solve this problem.  Can you please therefore post which of your products he should be using to get rid of this staining along with an explanation of the method he needs to adopt

Kevin
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2015, 09:35:15 am »
Kevin, if you remember the last time on another post from Nick M about how to deep clean Altro safety flooring and you were recommending he use a product based on sodium hydroxide, which to be honest i thought was a shocking recommendation and if you want to know the reasons why again Kevin i will be happy to explain to you, as you know Kevin i don't do hard floor restoration so i don't carry a product or know of a cleaning product that will remove the ingrained staining left behind on that floor from neat sodium hypochlorite.

Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2015, 11:14:59 am »
Kevin, if you remember the last time on another post from Nick M about how to deep clean Altro safety flooring and you were recommending he use a product based on sodium hydroxide, which to be honest i thought was a shocking recommendation and if you want to know the reasons why again Kevin i will be happy to explain to you, as you know Kevin i don't do hard floor restoration so i don't carry a product or know of a cleaning product that will remove the ingrained staining left behind on that floor from neat sodium hypochlorite.

Fair enough
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2015, 12:49:18 pm »
Kevin, if you remember the last time on another post from Nick M about how to deep clean Altro safety flooring and you were recommending he use a product based on sodium hydroxide, which to be honest i thought was a shocking recommendation and if you want to know the reasons why again Kevin i will be happy to explain to you, as you know Kevin i don't do hard floor restoration so i don't carry a product or know of a cleaning product that will remove the ingrained staining left behind on that floor from neat sodium hypochlorite.

Fair enough
well i don't think you were being fair enough to Nick, you were very quick to point out to him that you were intrigued as to why a professional cleaning company would let cleaners use sodium hypochlorite to clean tile and grout, i am equally intrigued as to why a professional cleaning company would let their cleaners use a cleaning chemical based on sodium hydroxide to deep clean their clients Altro safety flooring, maybe you can answer Kevin.

Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2015, 01:57:27 pm »
Kevin, if you remember the last time on another post from Nick M about how to deep clean Altro safety flooring and you were recommending he use a product based on sodium hydroxide, which to be honest i thought was a shocking recommendation and if you want to know the reasons why again Kevin i will be happy to explain to you, as you know Kevin i don't do hard floor restoration so i don't carry a product or know of a cleaning product that will remove the ingrained staining left behind on that floor from neat sodium hypochlorite.

Fair enough
well i don't think you were being fair enough to Nick, you were very quick to point out to him that you were intrigued as to why a professional cleaning company would let cleaners use sodium hypochlorite to clean tile and grout, i am equally intrigued as to why a professional cleaning company would let their cleaners use a cleaning chemical based on sodium hydroxide to deep clean their clients Altro safety flooring, maybe you can answer Kevin.

Tadgh

It is because you have so much more knowledge than me
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2015, 02:18:27 pm »
Kevin, its not about me having more knowledge than you when it comes to cleaning floors, this is a forum where both you and i get a platform to share our products and services, its also expected i am sure you will agree a forum in sharing our experience and knowledge with other members, i have put my hand up many a time on this forum and have admitted to damaging clients surfaces from using the wrong cleaning chemicals, now as you know when it comes to using harsh chemicals based on sodium hydroxide i have a total aversion and trust me for very good reason, for those reasons i have always been open in sharing my experience and knowledge of these and other aggressive based cleaning chemicals, its always in the hope that others may benefit from sharing into some of these insights. i will also be the first to admit after being in this industry for over 30 years i am still learning everyday.  Tadgh

Kev Martin

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2015, 03:50:04 pm »
Fair enough
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Nick M

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Re: Bleach residue on floor?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2015, 06:11:59 pm »
Thank you guys. I appreciate both of your help relating  to all the scenarios I've put up over the last few years.

I've learnt lots from your contributions  to not just my posts but many others as well.