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How to price up gutters?
« on: September 06, 2015, 12:59:37 pm »
Hi all, how do you price up gutters? and what's the average price?
Cheers

Smudger

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2015, 01:12:13 pm »
As cleaning or clearing ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 01:16:03 pm »
Both please :-)

Smudger

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 01:40:58 pm »
I price according to the house/property an average terraced front/back is £65 to vac

Washing slightly more, basically over the years I know how long it takes to wash a run of sfg and I know we want to earn £x per hour, if a job takes 1hr I charge 1.5 the hourly rate as a one off clean has time to and from it.

Others just charge per meter, which is ok, but I like to take into account access, those with wide soffits, vented soffits, gable ends ( you can charge big for these because people are put off by the height, but are real easy to clean wfp )

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 01:52:35 pm »
Cheers pal, I'm actually doing them off ladders ( clearing) as I don't have a gutter vac at the moment, where's is the best place to get one?

Smudger

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2015, 02:25:42 pm »
As with anything get the best you can afford, I've had an omnivac 4200 watt setup for almost six years, it's been fantastic and never failed to get everything out the gutters ( but I have made loads of extra ends for it.)

The nilfisk/sky vacs are supposed to be very good and come with a blow option - later this year I shall probably get one of these, I would defo have carbon poles, it gave our omnivac a new lease of life in ease of use esp. 3 floors up.

Buy a good Honda Genny - don't rely on customers to provide your electricity !

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smurf

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2015, 03:14:35 pm »
Regarding price there is no such thing as an average price as each job is different so you need to charge accordingly.  Basically I charge as high as I want for each job now as to be honest I’m not that bothered if I win the work or not anymore.

I find it helps to wiz around with a camera on a pole and inspect the guttering & downspouts whilst on quotes. That way I get a good idea what I’m letting myself in for.  Not only that it’s great for identifying issues beforehand and even show the customer too so is a very powerful passive sales tool.

samson

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2015, 04:45:01 pm »
If they want the outsides and soffits done then double the price.

Smurf

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2015, 10:23:05 pm »
If they want the outsides and soffits done then double the price.

Indeed or if not a lot more...

I make it clear on quotes gutter clearing is one service and cleaning the outside of gutters, fascias and soffits etc is a completely different service so should be priced separately

SeanK

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2015, 11:28:28 pm »
I envy you guys that can get decent money for doing this type of work, you wouldn't believe the amount of fancy well to do
properties with filthy fascia's soffits and gutters that haven't been cleaned from new that are in my area. the owners are
too miserable to pay anybody to clean them.
I have quoted quite a few of them and have yet to get any, thinking of carrying a defibrillator as its only a matter of time before one of them has a heart attack judging by the reactions I get.

SeanK

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2015, 11:34:29 pm »
As with anything get the best you can afford, I've had an omnivac 4200 watt setup for almost six years, it's been fantastic and never failed to get everything out the gutters ( but I have made loads of extra ends for it.)

The nilfisk/sky vacs are supposed to be very good and come with a blow option - later this year I shall probably get one of these, I would defo have carbon poles, it gave our omnivac a new lease of life in ease of use esp. 3 floors up.

Buy a good Honda Genny - don't rely on customers to provide your electricity !

Darran

A Genny big enough to run a 4.2 kw gutter vac can be quite a handful for a one man operator, I have a Genny but use the
customers power for that reason.

samson

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2015, 06:13:52 am »
As with anything get the best you can afford, I've had an omnivac 4200 watt setup for almost six years, it's been fantastic and never failed to get everything out the gutters ( but I have made loads of extra ends for it.)

The nilfisk/sky vacs are supposed to be very good and come with a blow option - later this year I shall probably get one of these, I would defo have carbon poles, it gave our omnivac a new lease of life in ease of use esp. 3 floors up.

Buy a good Honda Genny - don't rely on customers to provide your electricity !

Darran

A Genny big enough to run a 4.2 kw gutter vac can be quite a handful for a one man operator, I have a Genny but use the
customers power for that reason.
They are a big lump, so we book all the cleans on one day so we're not shifting the Genny in and out of the van  ;D

Mike #1

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2015, 06:48:58 am »
I envy you guys that can get decent money for doing this type of work, you wouldn't believe the amount of fancy well to do
properties with filthy fascia's soffits and gutters that haven't been cleaned from new that are in my area. the owners are
too miserable to pay anybody to clean them.
I have quoted quite a few of them and have yet to get any, thinking of carrying a defibrillator as its only a matter of time before one of them has a heart attack judging by the reactions I get.

Its the same in my area as well

Smudger

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2015, 07:04:54 am »
It's full of carrot crunchers here still living in the 1960's here and I get my share of "oh it's only up the ladder - 5 minute job, I'll give you a tenner" brigade  but you just need to ignore that sort.

Any of you chaps heard of a extension lead ?

50m cable on a reel saves you taking the Genny off the van

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

samson

Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2015, 07:10:42 am »
It's full of carrot crunchers here still living in the 1960's here and I get my share of "oh it's only up the ladder - 5 minute job, I'll give you a tenner" brigade  but you just need to ignore that sort.

Any of you chaps heard of a extension lead ?

50m cable on a reel saves you taking the Genny off the van

Darran
And don't forget to unwind it, cos it gets very hot  :o ;D

lal

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2015, 07:50:02 am »
If they want the outsides and soffits done then double the price.

Indeed or if not a lot more...

I make it clear on quotes gutter clearing is one service and cleaning the outside of gutters, fascias and soffits etc is a completely different service so should be priced separately

I completely agree with you Smurf,  I've often been asked when quoting for gutter clearing does that include washing the exterior
of gutters as well, so now when asked i explain they are completely different services and priced separately, then its up to them if
they want to proceed with it or not.
Lal

Ian101

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2015, 08:06:08 am »
I stopped doing these but used to charge £3 per liner metre (gap between gutter clips approx 1 metre) for emptying or £3 for cleaning or £5 if both jobs done same visit.

Typical 3 bed semi with 2 runs of 8 metres = £40 took about 40 mins or less with gutter pro tool.

If not a regular customer then double the above price

Klean07

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2015, 09:15:18 am »
I envy you guys that can get decent money for doing this type of work, you wouldn't believe the amount of fancy well to do
properties with filthy fascia's soffits and gutters that haven't been cleaned from new that are in my area. the owners are
too miserable to pay anybody to clean them.
I have quoted quite a few of them and have yet to get any, thinking of carrying a defibrillator as its only a matter of time before one of them has a heart attack judging by the reactions I get.
Once you get one then they'll all want it done they'll want to keep up with the Jones's next door etc!
kkleanwindowcleaning.co.uk

Smurf

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2015, 06:28:49 pm »
I envy you guys that can get decent money for doing this type of work, you wouldn't believe the amount of fancy well to do
properties with filthy fascia's soffits and gutters that haven't been cleaned from new that are in my area. the owners are
too miserable to pay anybody to clean them.
I have quoted quite a few of them and have yet to get any, thinking of carrying a defibrillator as its only a matter of time before one of them has a heart attack judging by the reactions I get.
Once you get one then they'll all want it done they'll want to keep up with the Jones's next door etc!

Very true as I end up quite often doing a few in a street once they see what I'm up to. That's walkups no leafletting  or knocking door as to be honest I can't be arsed with all that marlarky now..

ants

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Re: How to price up gutters?
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2015, 09:50:21 pm »
I find 4 or 5 times what you charge for cleaning windows a good guideline