[M & C Window Cleaning]

I replaced it with one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-New-8L-Gas-LPG-Propane-Tankless-Instant-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler-Hot-/301722139509?hash=item46400a7b75

Which is a great little heater unlike the L5

Looks good. What are the dimensions? Is it smaller or bigger than the L5?

Slightly bigger but not by much but to be honest I cant be arsed to measure it.
Anyway if you have a look on the fleebay link it give you them there

What probs did you have with your L5?

[benny donnelly]

I replaced it with one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-New-8L-Gas-LPG-Propane-Tankless-Instant-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler-Hot-/301722139509?hash=item46400a7b75

Which is a great little heater unlike the L5

Looks good. What are the dimensions? Is it smaller or bigger than the L5?

Slightly bigger but not by much but to be honest I cant be arsed to measure it.
Anyway if you have a look on the fleebay link it give you them there

How have you it vented then? and how is it any better than the L5?

Any issues with your insurance with it in the van?

[Smudger]

Before getting all prickly I was asking the question because that's what the seller stated

See below quote from sellers ad:


Safety Tips
1. Must be installed by gasman.
2. Must be used under the condition of ventilation, ensuring the normal condition of the flue kit.
3. Please use and maintain the heater according to the manual.
4. Please check the gas connection regularly to ensure there is no leaking risks.

Best regards
Darran

[benny donnelly]

Before getting all prickly I was asking the question because that's what the seller stated

See below quote from sellers ad:


Safety Tips
1. Must be installed by gasman.
2. Must be used under the condition of ventilation, ensuring the normal condition of the flue kit.
3. Please use and maintain the heater according to the manual.
4. Please check the gas connection regularly to ensure there is no leaking risks.

Best regards
Darran

I dont think you read the questions properly lad

I was asking how you vented yours, why is it better than the L5 and any insurance issues with it i.e. are you covered in the event of an accident

[dazmond]

if your round consists of mainly maintenance window cleaning week in/week out id say hot water is an expense you dont really need.you can clean windows 99% of the time with cold water just fine.

id say keep expenses to a minimum and forget about hot water.its also an extra faff you can do without.

keep it simple.

to make a difference in regards to cleaning power you need to have the water at 40-50 degrees which brings its own problems(risk of cracking glass,blown hoses and of course extra expense in gas).the time you might save is marginal and easily eaten up by the extra time you ll spend draining heater,tightening connectors,changing bottles etc.

[Peter Rayner]

Have to agree 100% with Dazmond  its a lot of trouble for little gain. I could have brought a whole new cold system for what the hot part of my system cost to buy and fit. I don't understand this working in winter when its freezing  advantage, all hot water boilers start by water flow if your system is frozen like any van base system will be below zero if you haven't left some sort of heating on over night. you cannot fire up your system.

[Smudger]

Before getting all prickly I was asking the question because that's what the seller stated

See below quote from sellers ad:


Safety Tips
1. Must be installed by gasman.
2. Must be used under the condition of ventilation, ensuring the normal condition of the flue kit.
3. Please use and maintain the heater according to the manual.
4. Please check the gas connection regularly to ensure there is no leaking risks.

Best regards
Darran

I dont think you read the questions properly lad
And smurf pointed out he uses the one linked in his post, therefore I was asking HIM did he use a gasman to fit it 


I was asking how you vented yours, why is it better than the L5 and any insurance issues with it i.e. are you covered in the event of an accident

i don't use them, too many question marks over insurance

Ok sunny 

[KS Cleaning]

I used to have the purefreedom diesel hot system in my last van, expensive overkill IMO.  Now thanks to advice from chumbucket and others on here I now have a 3kw immersion in my tank, total cost including upgrading electrics in my garage around £200

[steven ainger]

Ising hot doesn't have to be a ball ache as Daz describes, if set up properly.
I use hot/warm all year round & have done for the last 7-8 yrs.
I have a refillable gas tank, not a cylinder, so once a week when i  go to the garage to Get diesel i fill up with lpg ( no hassle there )
I never drain the system at night,
I have my heater mounted on my tank in the centre of the van, it has a big air gap around it which helps to stop freezing.
When i had the old L5 mounted on the wall of the van i had 2 or 3 freeze up.
If the overnight temp is around about zero to minus 1 or 2 i just wrap the heater with an old duvet, any colder i'll put an oil filled rad in there overnight.
You also need a good pump controller, i use the analogue one with the external dead end control dial, so you can easily adjust the D/E to stop over pressuring the hose ( ive had the same reel of Thermobore for 4 1/2 yrs )
As said hot wont make things magically melt away, i just like using it, makes my working day that little bit easier ad i find that cost is minimal, its roughly about 1% of my weekly earnings .
As been said prviously using hot feels different & i dont know why, i hate using cold nowadays,
To summarise,
Will hot dramatically change they you work No
Will using hot help you work through freezing winters, a little, if its too cold the water will freeze on the window as soon as it cools down
But it will make your day a bit easier, plus i dont carry any chemicals like tfr etc for con roof/ fascia cleans as i find if i turn up the heat a bit theres no need for them.
Hope this helps

[dazmond]

each to their own but i was spending £50 a month on gas.if i used hot all year round thats £600 a year.over 5 years thats 3grand(enough to buy a good decent second hand van).

[samson]

each to their own but i was spending £50 a month on gas.if i used hot all year round thats £600 a year.over 5 years thats 3grand(enough to buy a good decent second hand van).

Or a new Gardiners pole 

[LWC]

I totally agree with Daz. I admit in past i used it every day, and yes i loved it! But it does come with the hassles daz mentioned. Since moving over to my truck i havent put the heater on once, and can honestly say its been a lot less hassle and i havent missed it.

I wouldnt say it makes the job much quicker...it just makes the job nicer...meaning youll probably stay out a bit longer and do a couple more. I would say it costs £30 - 50 a month in gas. Im not slating it at all, and if you fancy it, try it.

[Frankybadboy]

each to their own but i was spending £50 a month on gas.if i used hot all year round thats £600 a year.over 5 years thats 3grand(enough to buy a good decent second hand van).

but you said it was the best thing seen slice bread last year 

[dazmond]

each to their own but i was spending £50 a month on gas.if i used hot all year round thats £600 a year.over 5 years thats 3grand(enough to buy a good decent second hand van).

but you said it was the best thing seen slice bread last year 

i have the right to change my mind franky through experience!

[Smurf]

I would  not be without my chepo lpg gas heater but each to their own. 

[SeanK]

each to their own but i was spending £50 a month on gas.if i used hot all year round thats £600 a year.over 5 years thats 3grand(enough to buy a good decent second hand van).

but you said it was the best thing seen slice bread last year 

i have the right to change my mind franky through experience!

Totally agree, its always easy to see something through rose tinted glasses when first using it especially when its cost a
few quid, it only when things settle and you put it into everyday use that you can really make a judgement on what it offers you.
We have all been there.

[Smurf]

I've been using hot for yonks as mostly do exterior property cleaning mingers.
On regular window cleaning it also nice to have the option to use hot on demand too.

Same goes for using hot water using a hot box for pressure washing too.
Speaking of which I better get off my arse now and go clean a customer driveway