[slap bash]

Dune a first clean on a contract I have with a TdS of 55 only found out when I went home to produce more pure did I discover my crap water. Never the less the results were very good. I do use   Virasol on the brush as the frames were bad.so expected some spotting but no. Good results P/s for SeanK and Vision always.

[samson]

Until the sun comes up !

[Smudger]

+1 on that

Darran

[Smurf]

Until the sun comes up !

 

[SeanK]

Yep the only way to truly see the results is from the inside looking out, I will be very surprised if they are spot free
especially in full sun.

[groundhog]

I have recently cleaned using water with a tds of 79 due to my membrane being knackered! I have received no complaints, in fact last year I connected the drain water to the tank accidently and used water with a tds of 300! I did however receive a complaint on this day!! But the 8 other customers I did that day did not seem to notice and paid as usual!! I'm beginning to think that having a tds of 0 is unesasary, in fact I may stop using resin as long as I can get the water down to 20 with the RO.

[the king]

Yep the only way to truly see the results is from the inside looking out, I will be very surprised if they are spot free
especially in full sun.

+1

[the king]

I have recently cleaned using water with a tds of 79 due to my membrane being knackered! I have received no complaints, in fact last year I connected the drain water to the tank accidently and used water with a tds of 300! I did however receive a complaint on this day!! But the 8 other customers I did that day did not seem to notice and paid as usual!! I'm beginning to think that having a tds of 0 is unesasary, in fact I may stop using resin as long as I can get the water down to 20 with the RO.

not all complain some think o that clean was poor but we will c how the next clean is if its bad again we will cancle an make a excuse  008 at the most ide say an thats pushing it

[SeanK]

I have recently cleaned using water with a tds of 79 due to my membrane being knackered! I have received no complaints, in fact last year I connected the drain water to the tank accidently and used water with a tds of 300! I did however receive a complaint on this day!! But the 8 other customers I did that day did not seem to notice and paid as usual!! I'm beginning to think that having a tds of 0 is unesasary, in fact I may stop using resin as long as I can get the water down to 20 with the RO.

not all complain some think o that clean was poor but we will c how the next clean is if its bad again we will cancle an make a excuse  008 at the most ide say an thats pushing it

That's what some on here seem to forget, just because a customer doesn't complain doesn't mean they are happy
with the service.
Totally agree most fair minded people will give you another chance and some wont even notice a one off poor quality clean.

[SeanK]

Also agree that you can clean with water above zero.

[samson]

Also agree that you can clean with water above zero.

Never understood this thinking.
The basicS of getting the glass clean is to use pure water with oo TDS,  so why would you want to use higher and risk doing a rubbish job ?

[the king]

my tds went to 027 once buy mastake and it was hot day when i was walking around the bunglow wiping sills i saw spotting on some of the windows not all but some so i had to squeeqe them off i then checked my tds an thault o dear it was at the end of the day that morning 2nd job one of my custmers said the glass doesent look very good i checked from the inside an u could c spotting on every window at the back i rerinsed an  left, u couldent c the spotting from the out side on this job , morrel of the story check tds every tank fill an dont go above 003  008 at a absoult push

[Smudger]

Also agree that you can clean with water above zero.

Never understood this thinking.
The basicS of getting the glass clean is to use pure water with oo TDS,  so why would you want to use higher and risk doing a rubbish job ?

because there is a tolerance, 000 is perfect ( not taking into account poor technique ) but 001 wouldn't mean disaster.

It's knowing where the upper safe level is.  From experience high 20's to low 30's start to produce spotting
So the highest we clean with is 012 that gives a safety buffer between good cleans and the point where spotting may start

Darran

[SeanK]

Also agree that you can clean with water above zero.

Never understood this thinking.
The basicS of getting the glass clean is to use pure water with oo TDS,  so why would you want to use higher and risk doing a rubbish job ?

No the basics of wfp cleaning is to use water that doesn't leave any traces on the glass after it dries, 00tds is just a measure
of conductivity and one that we have been told to use as a rule of thumb.
Doesn't mean you cant go above it without ricking the quality, I have cleaned my own property with a TDS of 10 then examined
the glass very carefully in full sun without seeing a single spot or water mark.
So I now let my TDS go to 10ppm before changing the resin, any less and I'm just throwing away usable resin/money.
I'm not saying you cant go above 10ppm but that's where I have tried it to.
 

[Smudger]

Nice post Sean - well explained

Darran

[Smurf]

I often clean windows with 350 ish ppm with soap in the water too no probs.
They call that traditional cleaning you know.

Regarding wfp work I like to stick to 0 ppm as if I get any issues I can rule out the water being used.
I've found you can clean with higher ppm and get away with it on some jobs but on others like phobic glass you can't really.
Using higher ppm that's when you can start getting bad results and being slap dash gives wfp method a bad name.

[samson]

I often clean windows with 350 ish ppm with soap in the water too no probs.
They call that traditional cleaning you know.

Regarding wfp work I like to stick to 0 ppm as if I get any issues I can rule out the water being used.
I've found you can clean with higher ppm and get away with it on some jobs but on others like phobic glass you can't really.
Using higher ppm that's when you can start getting bad results and being slap dash gives wfp method a bad name.

Good post from one of the most senior members on here . . . Good your mind is so sharp at your advanced age 

[slap bash]

Well the sun was out and i cleaned the inside with no sign of markes. Maybe I am lucky. Normally never clean above 10 .

[SeanK]

I often clean windows with 350 ish ppm with soap in the water too no probs.
They call that traditional cleaning you know.

Regarding wfp work I like to stick to 0 ppm as if I get any issues I can rule out the water being used.
I've found you can clean with higher ppm and get away with it on some jobs but on others like phobic glass you can't really.
Using higher ppm that's when you can start getting bad results and being slap dash gives wfp method a bad name.

What has phobic glass got to do with it? as long as you have removed the dirt then the dirt is gone and any water left on the glass
will then dry spot free doesn't matter if its phobic or not.
Phobic glass only causes problems in dusty conditions where the excess water left on the glass has more time to absorb the dust.
Nothing to do with your tds.

[Smurf]

I often clean windows with 350 ish ppm with soap in the water too no probs.
They call that traditional cleaning you know.

Regarding wfp work I like to stick to 0 ppm as if I get any issues I can rule out the water being used.
I've found you can clean with higher ppm and get away with it on some jobs but on others like phobic glass you can't really.
Using higher ppm that's when you can start getting bad results and being slap dash gives wfp method a bad name.

What has phobic glass got to do with it? as long as you have removed the dirt then the dirt is gone and any water left on the glass
will then dry spot free doesn't matter if its phobic or not.
Phobic glass only causes problems in dusty conditions where the excess water left on the glass has more time to absorb the dust.
Nothing to do with your tds.

Well that told me...what do I know anyways not alot it seems