[Shane sharples]

Iv got a pure freedom trolley at the min so iv got reel/hose , pole and RO unit 👍
Are these 3 things from the cleaning warehouse all I need?
Cheers

[Tom White]

Yeh, that's the main stuff; you'll want a leisure battery too.  I think the 'Genie in a box' could be done a lot cheaper, but if you're after paying for the convenience, it looks good to me.

Some tricoflex hose and connectors will be required also.

If you can, have a nosy about some local window cleaners vans and see how they set up their system.

[simonr]

its got a battery in it mate all you need is a charger but keep an eye on my thread cos i just put one in my van yesterday & i cant get it working

[Matt.]

I have give up on a second battery am going direct from the main van battery

[simonr]

Ah rite, does a charger not come with it?
Yeah maybe you've got a faulty one, pee's u off though when your looking forward to switching It on!!

yeah i'm gutted &  it seems to be the pump so gotta wait till they open tomorrow to even ask about it never mind send it back & get a new one

[SeanK]

I have give up on a second battery am going direct from the main van battery

So how do you get home if you run the battery too flat ?

[SeanK]

I have give up on a second battery am going direct from the main van battery

That's a good idea then you don't have to charge it! only thing I worry about is if it affects the van battery

Unless you are doing the miles you will still need to charge it plus you run the risk of being left without enough power
to start the engine.
A good leisure battery and a split charger will mean you will never need to charge it, but again
you need to be doing the miles.

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

If you have a Pure Freedom trolley then why do you need the genie? Your trolley has a pump, battery and flow controller so you can use that to draw the water from your 350 tank. This is what I did for a couple of years until I completely dismantled the trolley and set the components up in the van, the trolley became a van mount.

[Matt.]

I have give up on a second battery am going direct from the main van battery

So how do you get home if you run the battery too flat ?

........ Never had my battery go flat on me...... I have run a pump solid for over 8 hours and the van started first time
Yes there is a possibility you could run your battery flat if it's not in top condition, a relay is prob best option if you don't do many miles and want a second battery

[Matt.]

I have give up on a second battery am going direct from the main van battery

That's a good idea then you don't have to charge it! only thing I worry about is if it affects the van battery

It won't do any damage at all to your battery, if you are stopped for say 4 hours and unsure about how your battery will be, simply go start the van, after so long and if it boots up as normal there's no probs if it struggles then leave the van running for 5 mins ( with some one in it before we get it )  or so.... Even little 5 10 min drives charges up battery enough

[8weekly]

You don't need to dismantle the trolley . Just put a connection onto the hose you drop into the barrels and connect to your tank. That's what I used to do.

[Cookie]

You don't need to dismantle the trolley . Just put a connection onto the hose you drop into the barrels and connect to your tank. That's what I used to do.

But this means you will be unable to detach the trolley from your van mount easily.  Could you not stick the hose you drop into your barrels straight into the tank itself? I guess you may have to extend the hose so it reaches the bottom of the tank... In this way you will have the best of both worlds - van mount & trolley without spending a fortune.

[Smurf]

I'm still using a pf trolley static in my van no probs.

There are two ways you can do this

Option 1. Connect directly to tank outlet - Take off the inlet pipe from the pump and replace it with a length of hose with an inline strainer then connect it to the tank outlet.

Option 2, Lengthen the inlet hose  and just drop it into the lid of the tank with the filter/one way valve attach including the bit of plastic pipe so it don't float or curl up so sits at the bottom of the tank.

If you use option 2 like I do just remember to keep the lid on when travelling about.  I've taken the centre breather bit out of the middle of the lid so don't have to bother keep taking the lid on/off. The  only time I do is to drop it into the second tank I have onboard if need be, Might one day plumb both tanks it in properly that is if I ever get around to it but works well enough as it is.

I still have the option to use the pf trolley as a trolley but to be honest I never bother now.

[dazmond]

i have the same tank and retaining frame albeit the 500L tank.get it bolted down with 6 spreader plates through the van floor and the jobs a good un.i also have a pumpbox like that also(nearly 2 years old with no problems)

i also bought a smart halfords battery charger for around £40

make sure you get a screw elbow with a tap fitting for the tank so you can turn your water off when disconnecting/connecting your pump connectors.

also id advise you buy the 1/2 inch clear braided hose for tank to pump fittings.its made for the job(gardiners sell it).

[dazmond]

its got a battery in it mate all you need is a charger but keep an eye on my thread cos i just put one in my van yesterday & i cant get it working

is the battery charged?

check all connectors from controller to pump to battery.these may have dislodged during transit

[Ian Sheppard]

It is well worth mentioning the difference between the Leisure battery and a Vehicle battery.

A car's battery is designed to provide a very large amount of current for a short period of time. This surge of current is needed to turn the engine over during starting. Once the engine starts, the alternator provides all the power that the car needs and slowly recharges the battery. So a car battery may go through its entire life without ever being drained more than 20 percent of its total capacity. Used in this way, a car battery can last a number of years. To achieve a large amount of current, a car battery uses thin plates in order to increase its surface area.

A deep cycle battery is designed to provide a steady amount of current over a long period of time. A deep cycle battery can provide a surge when needed, but nothing like the surge that a car battery can produce. A deep cycle battery is also designed to be deeply discharged over and over again (something that would ruin a car battery very quickly). To accomplish this, a deep cycle battery uses thicker plates.

A car battery typically has two ratings:

CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) - The number of amps that the battery can produce at (0 degrees C) for 30 seconds.

RC (Reserve Capacity) - The number of minutes that the battery can deliver 25 amps whilst keeping its voltage above 10.5 volts

Typically, a deep cycle battery will have two or three times the RC of a car battery, but will deliver one-half or three-quarters the CCAs. In addition, a deep cycle battery can withstand several hundred total discharge/recharge cycles, while a car battery is not designed to be totally discharged.

[SeanK]

This video deals with leisure batteries in caravan use but the same will apply to wfp users and touches on what Ian
has already said. www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRf8EmhQBJo

[Smurf]

Nice post for people that don't understand the difference 

It is well worth mentioning the difference between the Leisure battery and a Vehicle battery.

A car's battery is designed to provide a very large amount of current for a short period of time. This surge of current is needed to turn the engine over during starting. Once the engine starts, the alternator provides all the power that the car needs and slowly recharges the battery. So a car battery may go through its entire life without ever being drained more than 20 percent of its total capacity. Used in this way, a car battery can last a number of years. To achieve a large amount of current, a car battery uses thin plates in order to increase its surface area.

A deep cycle battery is designed to provide a steady amount of current over a long period of time. A deep cycle battery can provide a surge when needed, but nothing like the surge that a car battery can produce. A deep cycle battery is also designed to be deeply discharged over and over again (something that would ruin a car battery very quickly). To accomplish this, a deep cycle battery uses thicker plates.

A car battery typically has two ratings:

CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) - The number of amps that the battery can produce at (0 degrees C) for 30 seconds.

RC (Reserve Capacity) - The number of minutes that the battery can deliver 25 amps whilst keeping its voltage above 10.5 volts

Typically, a deep cycle battery will have two or three times the RC of a car battery, but will deliver one-half or three-quarters the CCAs. In addition, a deep cycle battery can withstand several hundred total discharge/recharge cycles, while a car battery is not designed to be totally discharged.

[gary999]

All you need is a long piece of hose and hose lock connector to attach trolley connector
then  just drop into tank....simples!