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M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2015, 10:41:44 pm »
Where did u get that info from spruce

It's printed on the side of your pump.
However, and maybe I'm reading it wrong, but those figures are stating that if you have an inlet pressure of 30psi, your pump will deliver .85ltr/min at 70psi. If you have an inlet pressure of 40psi, it will still only boost it to 70psi. If I've got it wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.

Stephen burton

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2015, 08:01:53 am »
http://www.osmotics.co.uk
This is the company I got it from

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2015, 08:53:11 am »
It's about pressure, not so much volume. My sureflo for instance turned up to max is still not capable of giving me more volume than what comes out of my tap. So if I attach a garden hose to it in actual fact less volume comes out. However, if I try to stop the flow with my finger with the pump turned on, it's nearly impossible. My sump pump that I use to transfer water from my storage tank to my barrels on the other hand, delivers high volume and would soak you to the skin in a second, but if you put your hand over it you can stop the flow easily. It's low pressure.
Your RO requires high pressure but low volume. You won't get .85 litres/min out of the RO. Remember, it produces waste water as well. You'll be lucky to get 25 litesr/hour. So I would have thought that .85 liters/min at 70 psi, maintained at the input of the RO would have been more than enough to increase it's output by a reasonable margin.

Stephen burton

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 05:08:30 pm »
All this is going straight over my head if I'm honest I'm sending the pump back as its making no difference I have had my Ro on today for 5 hours and it's produced 90 litres of water

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 06:00:36 pm »
Can't say you didn't try. It might be worth investigating a Permeate Pump.

http://www.aquatec.com/permeate-pumps.html

I wouldn't buy one though unless you can get it on a trial or return basis.

Best regards

Stephen burton

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 06:38:49 pm »
Tried too hard I think, thanks for all your help it's much appreciated

Don Kee

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2015, 08:49:48 am »
Put this pump - http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/24v-aquatec-reverse-osmosis-booster-pump-power-supply.html - in between your prefilters & membranes

Add another 150gpd membrane to make it a 450gpd R.O

Do that and you'll more than enough water you can deal with...

Might be worth reading a few threads on how R.O's work mate, at least that way you'll have more of an idea on what they need to work...

Spruce

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2015, 09:23:12 pm »
Put this pump - http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/24v-aquatec-reverse-osmosis-booster-pump-power-supply.html - in between your prefilters & membranes

Add another 150gpd membrane to make it a 450gpd R.O

Do that and you'll more than enough water you can deal with...

Might be worth reading a few threads on how R.O's work mate, at least that way you'll have more of an idea on what they need to work...

Its a single 300 GPD membrane Don. If he adds another it will turn it into a 600 GPD. I'm not sure if mixing membranes is an issue or not TBH. I just wonder if the restricter will cause an issue.

Another supplier has specs for this r/o.  Under ideal conditions (no detail) they produce 28 litres of pure an hour.

They also mention that the restrictor uses 3 litres to produce 1 liter of pure, ie 2 waste to 1 pure.

Sorry, but I would consider a new r/o as I believe that Stephen is always going to be on the back foot with regard to water. I would consider a 4021 but would probably opt for a 4040 and be done with it.

Upgrading a 4021 by adding an extra housing and membrane will make replacing 2 membranes very expensive further down the line.

An HF5 membrane in our 4040 with 50 psi and 13LPM tap water gives us 2 LPM of pure without a booster pump. Waste to pure 1:1 approx.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Don Kee

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2015, 04:10:03 pm »
Yep, you're right spruce!
Sorry, I didn't really look at the photos of the R.O (although I'm pretty sure the pump would be ok to use..?)


Agree on the 'back foot' statement...

Spruce

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Re: Booster pump
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2015, 07:35:55 pm »
Yep, you're right spruce!
Sorry, I didn't really look at the photos of the R.O (although I'm pretty sure the pump would be ok to use..?)


Agree on the 'back foot' statement...

Hi Don
A couple of months ago I dug my old 450GPD r/o out and connected it up to the outside tap. I couldn't believe how long it took to produce a liter of pure water.

I stuck with it out of ignorance even when son in law joined us part time. That r/o worked pretty much all week and most of the weekend. I spent Saturday and Sunday filling 2 vans so we could get through the week. Muggins would usually be the one to go without if there wasn't enough water to go round. I was overjoyed when the weather was bad during the week as that gave me a day to catch up water wise.

These small r/o's are ok for filling fish tanks, but aren't any good for window cleaners IMHO.

Upgrading to a 4040 was one of the best things I have done as it has taken so much pressure off me. I no longer have to balance the water books.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)