[AuRavelling79]

I said this once before but no one took me up on the offer.

Send me a small quantity of vision. I will put it in Dan the Man's water for one week without him knowing. (He gets his water from me) At the end of the week I will ask him whether he noticed anything different about his window cleaning.

I will report back here my findings.

Fair?

[Clever Forum Name]

Am I missing something? Why don't you just buy the bottle?

They offering a money back guarantee ?

[Shane sharples]

Il send you 10ml, it'll either arrive in a sandwich bag or a tied Jonny , once it arrives, just measure it out on a medicine spoon 

[Jonny 87]

The offer of the money back guarantee is open to everyone Granville.

To be brutally honest this forum has been extremely negative about vision because of certain characters that are active on here, even though the majority of those who have bought it are enjoying it and re ordered more since.

We said from the start that we weren't going to send out free samples. (At the moment this is still the case)

Seank has bought a bottle, and I'm sure he would gladly send you a sample to try? seeing as he does everything in his power to disprove it he should jump at the chance.

[Matt.]

 

There you go 🍻

If you near liverpool I will give u some.

I have used this, not everyday but on a job or 2, & I would say It defo made a difference, I am going back to a job tomorrow night, and fully intend to load up the tank with some artillery power

That would be 5ml ( or a quick 0.5 of a second squirt ) to a full 650L tank of water

[Dave Willis]

I said this once before but no one took me up on the offer.

Send me a small quantity of vision. I will put it in Dan the Man's water for one week without him knowing. (He gets his water from me) At the end of the week I will ask him whether he noticed anything different about his window cleaning.

I will report back here my findings.

Fair?

He'll be finished by thursday afternoon.

[Clever Forum Name]

If you seriously want a free a sample i will send you some. I will even pay the postage.

Got thousands of litres i need to shift.

[SeanK]

There have been a few times or posts recently where these guys had a chance to prove themselves and all they
had to do was recommend their own product.
One was a guy having problems with bird poo the other was a guy with spotting problems and each time they remained silent.
I tried both Vision and GG4 on problem openers and both products made no difference to the problem, I tried it on my own
windows just to see if the shine improved and I seen no difference other than they did look slightly shinier when wet.
Just to see if I was being over critical I cleaned one window with both additives and one without and then asked a few people
could they notice anything about both windows, none could.
As for glide, I use an Xtreme brush so I couldn't notice any difference in the glide again on both products.
I don't really have a problem with spotting other than the problem openers already mentioned so cant comment on this.
So would I recommend this product well I'm sure there's no surprise when I say no.
I honestly cant see any reason why somebody who's knows what their doing would find this product in any way useful.

[Walter Mitty]

I said this once before but no one took me up on the offer.

Send me a small quantity of vision. I will put it in Dan the Man's water for one week without him knowing. (He gets his water from me) At the end of the week I will ask him whether he noticed anything different about his window cleaning.

I will report back here my findings.

Fair?

Someone tipped a small amount in my van mount but I honestly couldn't say one way or the other; most of that tankful was used on a builder's window and cladding clean in heavy rain so not a fair sample really.
If you tip it in without him knowing, he will smell it anyway and might think that something has gone wrong with the water supply.

[SeanK]

Guys if any of you have a bottle of GG4 and I recommend that you do (for inside work I think its the business) here's a test,
mix it and manually scrub you own windows and frames using a microfiber and then rinse it of with pure.
That will show if these additives improve the shine or not and save you the bother of dosing your tank,
Plus why are the traditional guys the ones who clean the frames not getting shinier frames than us wfp users already
as they have been using these products daily and in higher doses.

[kempy]

I've used GG4 and I don't rate it at all . But I don't go on and on and on . I'm sure  a lot of window cleaners really like GG4 .
It's a good market when the customer / user can use various products .
There's a good choice of poles , brushes and basically everything really .  Everyone likes variety .
I find Vision helps me a lot .  Not because I was poor at WFP work before , it just aids me in many ways.  .

[SB Cleaning]

I've been using vision for about 6 months now and I love the stuff the water seems to sheet down the glass better I find it reduces spotting on SOME windows and leaves the windows with a good sparkle....I have tried using pure alone a couple of times recently  and it's just not the same without the vision!

[Clever Forum Name]

I've used GG4 and I don't rate it at all . But I don't go on and on and on . I'm sure  a lot of window cleaners really like GG4 .
It's a good market when the customer / user can use various products .
There's a good choice of poles , brushes and basically everything really .  Everyone likes variety .
I find Vision helps me a lot .  Not because I was poor at WFP work before , it just aids me in many ways.  .

But I don't go on and on (repeat until exhausted)

FTFY

[Small but perfectley formed]

I have also used it and will continue , also use it trad it definitely gives the glass the extra something especially after continual use

[kempy]

Like most Wfp products . Persons will buy them and try them .
Majority of vision users that have used it for over 4 weeks and longer have been pleasantly surprised and very happy with its performance .
Ive talked to a lot of vision users and it's always nice to help persons ways of working .

[SeanK]

I said this once before but no one took me up on the offer.

Send me a small quantity of vision. I will put it in Dan the Man's water for one week without him knowing. (He gets his water from me) At the end of the week I will ask him whether he noticed anything different about his window cleaning.

I will report back here my findings.

Fair?

The thing is these guy s have given samples  to other cleaners so why they wont agree to your proposal is something I cant
understand. ( well I can but why go into it again )
Even I couldn't disagree with your outcome.

[Plankton]

Is there a YouTube video that they have or would do to show how the product performs.

[SeanK]

Is there a YouTube video that they have or would do to show how the product performs.

There  is one very poor example  on you Youtube, the thing is it doesn't show how the clean was with pure alone and the difference
with the additive.

[duncan h]

Here we go again.
Buy a bottle you  tight "T"
if he doesn't notice, hes poop. Rinsing is totally different anyway. "were did these bubble come from"

[Rich Wilts]

Rinsing is totally different anyway. "were did these bubble come from"

That doesn't actually mean it's better it just means there's bubbles. Unless I'm missing something, Duncan, why having bubbles when you rinse does this mean it's an improvement on the whole cleaning experience?