[Perfect Windows]

Ah, there we are, some better examples there in your condescending post.

Totally intentional.

Vin

[SeanK]

How do you call getting your windows cleaned 3 or 4 times a year good service, the windows will be dirty for 90% of
the year.
Yes my customers also pay around £150 to £200 quid a year but for that they don't have to wait until they cant see though
the glass before they get cleaned.
Some nonsense talked on here at times.

SeanK

What nonsense has Vin said in any of his posts?

The fact is he has 5 vans on the road and his customers are happy to pay his prices.

You should try and learn from some of the posts on here instead of putting them down all the time...

Again mate I never said this about Vin.

[Mick Kent]

8 weekly I charge between £7 and £9 for a 3 bed semi depending on size 6 weekly but the majority of
my work is detached 4 or 5 bed at between £20 and £25 six weekly.
You see where I live people who live in 3 bed semi's don't have a fortune in earnings so if a shiner called at the door
asking for £27 for a 20 minute window clean 12 weekly or not they wouldn't be thinking well that's only £107 a year
they would be thinking this guy needs to get a grip.

I have worked for a few cleaners in Vin's areas canvassing and can confirm he gets those prices at those frequences.
 like Seank i think it is  mad that a customer would pay £27  every 3 month's to have dirty windows most of the year as doing 4 cleans a year simply doesnt keep the windows clean nomatter what is said it just cleans them when they are dirty instead of keeping them clean but it seems to work for old Vinny so fair play.

We all run things different and what works for 1 may not work for another.. An example is me doing front only cleans all the time, many think im mad and wonder why im not doing the backs however the roads i choose to work on simply dont have rear access unless they are home but 99 percent of the time they are out so have no choice anyway which for me is a win..

As long as we earn a nice crust who care's.

[Perfect Windows]

Well yours must be under a dome because I have a few that get cleaned every 12 weeks and the windows are filthy.
Your not the guys who was offering a 12 week clean guarantee by any chance.

I don't care whether you think the windows get dirty.  I care about whether the customer is happy.  There is a gap a mile wide between the two.  Before you say it, I know they are happy with a 12-weekly clean because, given the choice between an £18 6-weekly clean or a £27 12-weekly clean, 2/3 choose the latter.

I'd rather charge £27 to clean someone's windows than £9.  Clearly you don't agree, as you're keen to tell me time after time why I'm wrong (you can do three to my one, customers windows get too dirty, etc).  Good luck to you. 

It would also appear that you deeply care about whether your customers windows are perfect at all times.  I deeply care about whether my customers are happy.  Good luck to you.

Vin

[Rich Wilts]

I never realised the £27 price quoted for a three bed semi was for a 12 weekly frequency. I thought it was 6 weekly.

I have to say i do think one or two of your prices are under the going rate. £33.00 for a 3 monthly town house. We'd be wanting more like £40+ for that.

[Perfect Windows]

8 weekly I charge between £7 and £9 for a 3 bed semi depending on size 6 weekly but the majority of
my work is detached 4 or 5 bed at between £20 and £25 six weekly.
You see where I live people who live in 3 bed semi's don't have a fortune in earnings so if a shiner called at the door
asking for £27 for a 20 minute window clean 12 weekly or not they wouldn't be thinking well that's only £107 a year
they would be thinking this guy needs to get a grip.

I have worked for a few cleaners in Vin's areas canvassing and can confirm he gets those prices at those frequences.
 like Seank i think it is  mad that a customer would pay £27  every 3 month's to have dirty windows most of the year as doing 4 cleans a year simply doesnt keep the windows clean nomatter what is said it just cleans them when they are dirty instead of keeping them clean but it seems to work for old Vinny so fair play.

We all run things different and what works for 1 may not work for another.. An example is me doing front only cleans all the time, many think im mad and wonder why im not doing the backs however the roads i choose to work on simply dont have rear access unless they are home but 99 percent of the time they are out so have no choice anyway which for me is a win..

As long as we earn a nice crust who care's.

Oi, get off my patch, Kent.

I LOVE the idea of fronts only terraces.  I bet you make a mint; every terrace front I've ever done seems to be finished before I start.

Vin

[KS Cleaning]

Ah, there we are, some better examples there in your condescending post.

Totally intentional.

Vin

[sunshine windows]

Sean, I couldn't care less whether you think you can't get those prices. My problem is you believing that no one else can, or is charging these prices.

I also never said mine were 12 weekly either 

[SeanK]

Sean, I couldn't care less whether you think you can't get those prices. My problem is you believing that no one else can, or is charging these prices.

I also never said mine were 12 weekly either 

Mate my brother is a self employed joiner who earned half a million quid last year after expenses, do you know
how I know this ? he told me.
I have very little time for blow holes.
Like I said all I can tell anybody is what I can earn and why I cant get more and I don't care if you know better.

[SeanK]

Well yours must be under a dome because I have a few that get cleaned every 12 weeks and the windows are filthy.
Your not the guys who was offering a 12 week clean guarantee by any chance.

I don't care whether you think the windows get dirty.  I care about whether the customer is happy.  There is a gap a mile wide between the two.  Before you say it, I know they are happy with a 12-weekly clean because, given the choice between an £18 6-weekly clean or a £27 12-weekly clean, 2/3 choose the latter.

I'd rather charge £27 to clean someone's windows than £9.  Clearly you don't agree, as you're keen to tell me time after time why I'm wrong (you can do three to my one, customers windows get too dirty, etc).  Good luck to you. 

It would also appear that you deeply care about whether your customers windows are perfect at all times.  I deeply care about whether my customers are happy.  Good luck to you.

Vin

So let me get this straight, your customers can pay £108 a year for 4 cleans or £144 a year for 8 cleans, so for
the sake of an extra £36 2/3 choose the 4 and cant see that they could have 4 extra cleans for £9 a pop.
They're not very bright in your neck of the woods Vin.

[Perfect Windows]

I keep saying it, I don't care about anything other than whether our customers are happy.  Clearly customers prefer the 12-weekly option, as they choose it freely.  So do I, as our guys earn almost 50% more per hour doing 12-weeklies (I suspect it probably adds a minute or two to a clean).  Who loses?

Rather than deriding the time we must spend cleaning, the intelligence of people in Southampton, the dirtiness of windows or whatever else strikes your fancy, why not try offering it and see what the takeup is?  You'll earn more.

Vin

[Ben wood]

Vin.
I think Sean has a secret crush on you really. Sean you need to get a grip. There has not been one post on here without having a dig at people. Grow up idiot.

[Rich Wilts]

Sean thinks he's on the Vision thread.

[SeanK]

Vin.
I think Sean has a secret crush on you really. Sean you need to get a grip. There has not been one post on here without having a dig at people. Grow up idiot.

Mate its a forum where people debate and challenge what others say and before you get on your high horse casting stones
maybe you should find out who had the first dig at who.

[SeanK]

I keep saying it, I don't care about anything other than whether our customers are happy.  Clearly customers prefer the 12-weekly option, as they choose it freely.  So do I, as our guys earn almost 50% more per hour doing 12-weeklies (I suspect it probably adds a minute or two to a clean).  Who loses?

Rather than deriding the time we must spend cleaning, the intelligence of people in Southampton, the dirtiness of windows or whatever else strikes your fancy, why not try offering it and see what the takeup is?  You'll earn more.

Vin

Mate I have no doubt about the intelligence of the people of Southampton that remark was just a dig at your nonsense
and I'm sure anybody from Southampton on here will realise that.

[SeanK]

Sean thinks he's on the Vision thread.

Mate I know deep down that I shouldn't be arguing with these types and the sensible thing would be just to let them get
on with it.
Maybe I need help or to get a life.

[Jonny 87]

Gotta love seank's post these days.

In a morning before I got to work I just check down the threads to see which topics Sean is on. It's great fun. 

 

[SeanK]

Gotta love seank's post these days.

In a morning before I got to work I just check down the threads to see which topics Sean is on. It's great fun. 

 

Well you where all complaining on how dead the forum had got.
Yes I know some will say to me it was better dead so crawl back under your stone.

[TomCrowther]

This is a strange topic. I think the guys who don't understand why customers would pay a fifty per cent uplift to have their Windows done four times a year rather than 8.6  Times a year don't see things through the customers eyes.
A window cleaner is offering a service. Lots of people would rather have a less frequent service, done properly than a frequent poor service like they may have experienced in the past.
Customer value perception.

[SeanK]

This is a strange topic. I think the guys who don't understand why customers would pay a fifty per cent uplift to have their Windows done four times a year rather than 8.6  Times a year don't see things through the customers eyes.
A window cleaner is offering a service. Lots of people would rather have a less frequent service, done properly than a frequent poor service like they may have experienced in the past.
Customer value perception.

You have missed the point completely Tom, nobody is saying that a customer wont pay extra for a better service and cut
back on a few cleans to be able to afford it.
The point is if you are charging £27 for an excellent service could another cleaner not charge £15 for as good a service
and still make a well above average living even for the south of England, we all know they could.
So lets say Mrs x next door is getting the same level of service as you are giving but getting a lot more cleans per year for the same money, would your customer not be temped to jump ship ?
8 weekly is right most customers wont jump ship for the sake of a few quid but there has to be a point where people begin to
think hold on a minute I'm just being ripped off here.
To say that people are happy with a 12 weekly clean is just nonsense, they are happy with what they can afford and that's
no different with any of us.
These blow holes all have one thing in common, they don't seem to have any competition that can offer the same level of
service as themselves and its isn't worth while for anybody to try unless they are charging the same as they are.