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keyser soze

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well. i have learnt my lesson
« on: May 23, 2015, 09:31:01 pm »
i just tried to mentor a guy just trying to break into window cleaning , he was down on his luck having just been sacked from the london underground . and lost his licence to drink /driving . he decided whilst waiting to get his licence back, he would get set up ,so  i took him to buy a van with wfp system already installed . gave him all sorts of advice . etc etc. anyway in the mean time i was trying to secure a contract. ( quiet a biggie).possibly worth thousands which i discussed with him and he's only gone behind my back and approached the company and tried to muscle in. just taught me a  big big lesson ''don't trust anyone'' and its the last time i offer help to my potential competitors

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 09:49:11 pm »
That's so out of order. How did you find out?  >:(
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

keyser soze

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2015, 09:56:29 pm »
the manager I'm dealing with rang me and told me everything , so i texted this so called mate and asked what the hell he was doing and he said he wanted work i couldn't fit in , which is so underhanded i feel betrayed tbh. ill never help anyone again

keyser soze

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2015, 10:01:05 pm »
funny thing is he needs more help to get started,i.e. he doesn't know exactly how to use the system, i told him he needs new ro filter and to fit some pre filters ,  no more help now for the scumbag

Bungle

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2015, 10:08:31 pm »
He lost his licence and while waiting to get it back he buys a van and decides to go window cleaning in it  ::)roll
We look at them, they look through them.

Johnny B

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2015, 10:15:58 pm »
He lost his licence and while waiting to get it back he buys a van and decides to go window cleaning in it  ::)roll

I read it that the OP took a disqualified driver to get a van.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Smudger

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2015, 10:46:10 pm »
Sacked from London Underground and drunk driver, tells you everything about his character.

But some see everything as fair game in biz. Perhaps it would have been better to just show him the mechanics of window cleaning rather than chit chat over potential money making contracts ?

Hopefully as your potential customer rang you, his tender has been ruled out

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Matt.

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2015, 11:05:01 pm »
Also agree with Darran, a bit anyway.

I have helped guys setup and gave them equipment ect,  but I would never discuss a job or jobs that am after unless I have them tied up, I think that's where you went wrong.

It's one thing helping a guy out, but if your going to feed him your leads at some point he's guna think he can cut you out.

I have loads of jobs am interested in, and some that I have discussed possible prices with, but I wouldn't go shouting from the roof tops what they are until I have sewn it up.

And then the world can know.

keyser soze

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2015, 01:39:21 am »
yes i took him to get a van but all legit he got delivered to his house via a loader. yeah i did discuss the job because its a big contract and I' can't do it by myself and i thought i could use him .i think he fancies himself as a middle man where he takes it on and subs it out . this contract is  very big , 

keyser soze

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2015, 01:41:02 am »
He lost his licence and while waiting to get it back he buys a van and decides to go window cleaning in it  ::)roll


he's got a driver to help him get started

Dave Willis

Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2015, 08:01:56 am »
Give him all your used bags of resin.

Johnny B

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2015, 09:28:30 am »
He lost his licence and while waiting to get it back he buys a van and decides to go window cleaning in it  ::)roll


he's got a driver to help him get started

Not mentioned in the original post, and with the lack of integrity that this guy has already demonstrated, am I the only one who doesn't believe that?

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

duncan h

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2015, 12:07:12 pm »
He lost his licence and while waiting to get it back he buys a van and decides to go window cleaning in it  ::)roll


he's got a driver to help him get started

Not mentioned in the original post, and with the lack of integrity that this guy has already demonstrated, am I the only one who doesn't believe that?

John
He wont get insured if in his name

davids3511

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2015, 02:44:10 pm »
The one thing you can expect from someone with a history of poor decisions is more poor decisions.

paulben

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2015, 04:11:53 pm »
Hope when he brought van your name was not used on any paperwork sounds like a dodgy bloke .Who buys a van set up for wfp before checking what job entails etc
Do not steal the government hates competition

Jimmy Jon

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2015, 05:23:21 pm »
Who buys a van set up for wfp before checking what job entails etc

I did! took the gamble and it paid off, best thing I ever did (workwise).  :)

Perfect Windows

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2015, 05:25:43 pm »
The one thing you can expect from someone with a history of poor decisions is more poor decisions.

+1.  Guaranteed.

Walter Mitty

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2015, 05:28:44 pm »
The one thing you can expect from someone with a history of poor decisions is more poor decisions.

Not so sure about that.  Some learn from mistakes and some don't.

keyser soze

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2015, 07:56:41 pm »
he has since sent me a couple of texts , basically trying to explain his attempt to muscle in , and i text back  saying don't worry about it i have learnt a valuable lesson . he then sent another threatening me not to mess with him , lol  he must have been drunk .spelling was all over the place

Johnny B

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Re: well. i have learnt my lesson
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2015, 08:34:59 pm »
he has since sent me a couple of texts , basically trying to explain his attempt to muscle in , and i text back  saying don't worry about it i have learnt a valuable lesson . he then sent another threatening me not to mess with him , lol  he must have been drunk .spelling was all over the place

So he has bought a van all kitted out, no licence, no customers, no-one to help him to get started now! What a success he's going to be! You're well out of it mate.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.