[duncan h]

While shopping with wife this afternoon. I watched a windy do Marks and Spencers outside windows. Traditional !. He was the pits. Half the time he completely missed the windows. He left water running down the glass. I was going to slag him off on my way back, but he had gone.
How do they get contracts like these doing such bad jobs. I was going to take picture but phone is naff. Hole circles of water left on glass

[Ian Lancaster]

Pay peanuts get monkeys.  Sometimes these contracts are just lip service to the rule of having the windows cleaned on a regular basis.  Some national "window cleaning company" will bid a ridiculously low single price for every store in an area, or even the whole country.  They then subcontract once, twice or more so the bloke doing the work has to cover every store in a given radius with absolute rock bottom price and no allowance for travelling.  He is almost always an employee of the sub (or sub-sub, or sub-sub-sub) contractor and is paid on a timed basis of each job. 

One of my franchisees was in this position before he came to us, out for 14-16 hours a day and barely making minimum wage for a 35 hour week.

Doesn't exactly inspire commitment, does it?

[cgh window cleaning]

Mark & spencer are national so the bloke you saw would have been an employe on no more than about £8.50 an hour with a whole load of stores to get through.
On top of that  I know the company that has the contract has just lost it,so his probly just been told this month he may not have a job could explain his slap/dash attitude .

[Matt.]

While shopping with wife this afternoon. I watched a windy do Marks and Spencers outside windows. Traditional !. He was the pits. Half the time he completely missed the windows. He left water running down the glass. I was going to slag him off on my way back, but he had gone.
How do they get contracts like these doing such bad jobs. I was going to take picture but phone is naff. Hole circles of water left on glass

If I remember right one company has north one has south,
I know mate, there shocking. Cleaning company are employing lads on 16 hrs a week 4 x 4 hr shifts. The standards on m&s have proper dropped.
I covered some a while back and had them at top standards.

[PoleKing]

Same at my local Sainsbury's.

[rosskesava]

There's a Gap store next to where I do 3 shops each Friday. Sometime I see the windie turn up in his rust bucket van, jump out, grab an applicator and squeegee from the back and do all 12 medium sizes windows in 2 or 3 minutes. The first one gets done badly enough anyway but by the time he's doing the last window the applicator is all but dry.

When the sun shines on the glass especially at an angle, what a complete mess of smears and squeegee lines.

My local Asda also always has numerous squeegee lines along all the glass.

[duncan h]

This was Huddersfield. It wasn't just a smudge hear and there. It was like F*** this. Total crap. Applicator in 1 hand following with squeegee in other hand as he goes along. Glancing at the women while still doing it. I was shocked. May as well not bother doing them.

[G Griffin]

This was Huddersfield. It wasn't just a smudge hear and there. It was like F*** this. Total crap. Applicator in 1 hand following with squeegee in other hand as he goes along. Glancing at the women while still doing it. I was shocked. May as well not bother doing them.

Glancing at the women in Huddersfield? 
That is disgraceful.

[duncan h]

This was Huddersfield. It wasn't just a smudge hear and there. It was like F*** this. Total crap. Applicator in 1 hand following with squeegee in other hand as he goes along. Glancing at the women while still doing it. I was shocked. May as well not bother doing them.

Glancing at the women in Huddersfield? 
That is disgraceful.

lol but you always check you havnt missed half the window after drooling

[Matt.]

Need to let Dave Morris know about it. He's the man who can look into this and maybe get them sorted out, an a good Guy to do work for.

[ChumBucket]

This was Huddersfield. It wasn't just a smudge hear and there. It was like F*** this. Total crap. Applicator in 1 hand following with squeegee in other hand as he goes along. Glancing at the women while still doing it. I was shocked. May as well not bother doing them.

Glancing at the women in Huddersfield? 
That is disgraceful.

I'm surprised there are any women left to look at in Huddersfield who aren't wearing full Burkas!!

[slap bash]

Its only a few without  that`s why the windy cannot clean right he has to keep it eye on the view not the job at hand

[duncan h]

This was Huddersfield. It wasn't just a smudge hear and there. It was like F*** this. Total crap. Applicator in 1 hand following with squeegee in other hand as he goes along. Glancing at the women while still doing it. I was shocked. May as well not bother doing them.

Glancing at the women in Huddersfield? 
That is disgraceful.

I'm surprised there are any women left to look at in Huddersfield who aren't wearing full Burkas!!

That's Dewsbury and Bradford mate. Huddersfield is well mixed but high in Jamaican's. Not much bother from them. Make great bouncers lol

[jimiwindows]

 



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[Spruce]

Same at my local Sainsbury's.

We did a few Sainsbury's Locals in our area. They went internal about 2 years ago. TBH the windows of the one shop we use are pretty good. They don't do the signage every time like we used to do though.

They also aren't done between 5 and 6 am in the morning ready for opening time like we used to do either.

[Nick Day]

I cleaned M & S windows in Norwich six days a week for 25 years. I was called in to say that they had a cheaper price. They had  gone onto national internal cleaning and the firm would clean the windows free of charge. I had been getting £200.00 per week.
That was 1992, the whole commercial window cleaning seemed to go downhill from then. Another job I did paid me £16.00 per week in 1992, it is currently being done for £5.00 per week, that's 23 years of serious deflation!!

[richywilts]

greg avinou have got the contract at the huge one by mine they employ to full time window cleaners and have cherry picker on site