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Matt.

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New pole, for high level work
« on: April 19, 2015, 06:08:57 pm »
Hello guys,

Ok, so I use my ionics weapon and am not fussed about the weight, but............. I have just finished a job for a new customer and they have asked for me to do another section,...... great no probs.

Bit of a problem with access to windows, down an alley, up 2 different ladders of flat roofs, down another alley way, ( still on top of roof, all safe major strict on h&s ) into an opening 12 ft deep to adjoining building, windows are in shape of an arch and the building that forms part of the alley is blocking access to a section of the windows from underneath.

My thinking is a pole 44' plus maybe, that's light enough to work fully extended at 45 degree angles at times but rigid enough to work hard scrubbing, I don't want to buy and snap a pole at this price omg 😢

 what would be the choice of poles, either with or without extra sections.

I am thinking gardiners extreme or something, but would appreciate the help of any one who has experience with these type of poles.

These windows have a film over them, with loads of small holes in them, I am not sure of what it's called but I have many jobs with this, you just can not trad it, soap sticks in all the holes. But haven't been cleaned in the time of main man, due to access (15 years ), they are so bad, I mean seagulls 💩target boards, for a long time, probably one of the dirtiest-jobs I have ever done, so will be plenty of water, and virosol, and donkey work.

I have put the price of a ( gardiner pole @ £1000 ) pole on the job, and it's ended up Priced very high so I really am going to find away to do it, providing I get go ahead.

Thanks guys.

Matt

Rich Wilts

Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 06:24:58 pm »
Is this Lime Street Station?

Jon_Phelps

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 06:54:30 pm »
Rather then buy the pole if you get the approval.  See if someone on here has the length you need and local to the job and hire it for the day.   If its 15 years or so since its last clean the chances are it won't be a regular thing.  Admittedly you could end with a very good pole for free or you could end up pocketing a large portion of the £1000 pole price.   

Just a thought

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 07:25:44 pm »
I will always use it and if I had to buy a £1000 pole, it wouldn't be happening

Other side of this, only pic I had was at night

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 08:13:37 pm »
Is this Lime Street Station?

Yes mate
All insides done now looks good

Rich Wilts

Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 08:32:05 pm »
Is this Lime Street Station?

Yes mate
All insides done now looks good

Cracking job to have on your C.V. - well done.

Rich Wilts

Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 08:36:41 pm »
Depending on how much commercial work you have of this nature my choice of pole would be between a Gardiners extreme or one of his modulars http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/modular-super-lite-poles.html depending on how much of the budget you were going to use or maybe you'd like to spend more than the 1K and go for the beast of the range.

Personally I'd be going for a modular.

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 08:46:50 pm »
I no mate, I was lucky getting it I think, but hey ho, it's done now. I don't know much bout these poles only what I have read on this site. I want it to be firm, not much flex in the pole able to take a good beating, and maybe fit in back of trafic van. Oh ye and has to be able to work at low angles far away

Funny enough mate, loads of pics of jobs I done but.....
no cv
no web site
no sign written van
Just my number on my back.

Oh ye .................
Good reputation !!!!!

I don't know where they come from 😄

No complaints tho, it's all work

Rich Wilts

Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 09:09:11 pm »
Right place at the right time  :D

I'd say your best bet regards the choice of pole is give Alex a shout on the number on his site. He'll give you 20 mins of his time to run things past him, he'll give you honest advice.

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 09:32:40 pm »
Probably mate I will just put me head guard and gum shield in for when Alex hits me in the face with the price........... It may knock me out haha

robert mitchell

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 09:59:49 pm »
extreme 47 is £1078 including vat
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2015, 12:43:32 pm »
Difficult angles 40 to 50 ft away there is only one choice... super light modular.

WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 03:17:04 pm »
Difficult angles 40 to 50 ft away there is only one choice... super light modular.

Hello mate, is there a massive difference in weight from extreme to modular, I did use a sl40 on a job in Essex but didn't like it at all, I found it to be to light to work, and I reckon I would snap one of these poles in no time,
But,
On the other hand it may be best option.

What is approx weight of each pole.

I have had a look on gardiners today, extreme 47 seems to be the biggest extreme pole , and the extensions seem to only fit upto the 35 pole, on the description. On the web site.

On some of these site the windows got upto to near 60 ft so I would need 2 x extensions or sl40 with 2 modular extensions

Help is appreciated.

Matt

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 03:29:10 pm »
Difficult angles 40 to 50 ft away there is only one choice... super light modular.

Hello mate, is there a massive difference in weight from extreme to modular, I did use a sl40 on a job in Essex but didn't like it at all, I found it to be to light to work, and I reckon I would snap one of these poles in no time,
But,
On the other hand it may be best option.

What is approx weight of each pole.

I have had a look on gardiners today, extreme 47 seems to be the biggest extreme pole , and the extensions seem to only fit upto the 35 pole, on the description. On the web site.

On some of these site the windows got upto to near 60 ft so I would need 2 x extensions or sl40 with 2 modular extensions

Help is appreciated.

Matt

I nearly mentioned about the modular being more delicate, but then thought it wasn't fair as it's how you look after them really. I can't really comment on the big extreme as only used a mates for a little play BUT the angles and distances you are talking about I would think it would have to be modular as any telescopic no matter how good is going to have more bend at full working length, especially if you are going to working virtually horizontal!

A big decision for you mate as I suspect overall an extreme may be of more use day to day as modular are a pain in the butt as you probably know.
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2015, 03:31:41 pm »
Difficult angles 40 to 50 ft away there is only one choice... super light modular.

Hello mate, is there a massive difference in weight from extreme to modular, I did use a sl40 on a job in Essex but didn't like it at all, I found it to be to light to work, and I reckon I would snap one of these poles in no time,
But,
On the other hand it may be best option.

What is approx weight of each pole.

I have had a look on gardiners today, extreme 47 seems to be the biggest extreme pole , and the extensions seem to only fit upto the 35 pole, on the description. On the web site.

On some of these site the windows got upto to near 60 ft so I would need 2 x extensions or sl40 with 2 modular extensions

Help is appreciated.

Matt

The longest Xtreme is the 47ft. You can then fit the #10 modular extensions to it to take it to the 60ft you need - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/telescopic-poles/xtreme-telescopic-pole/the-new-slx-extension-sections-10.html - 3 of them would give you about 63ft in pole length.

If you wanted the Super-Lite modular which is even lighter and slightly more rigid then the SL57 would do the job for you - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/modular-super-lite-poles/pole-sl2-57.html

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2015, 03:52:59 pm »
Thanks Alex,

I need this size pole mate, so it's just a matter of which one is best, I have a new customer with a lot of sites so will be using the pole daily on these sites until finished. There is approx 100 sites, so a lot of work going forward, some are higher than 50 ft some are lower, I want it to be firm, strong with not much flex in the pole

Thanks

Matt

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2015, 04:27:55 pm »
Decision decisions...............
Having just had a good look at both them poles and talking to lads who have used these poles there is pro and cons regarding which is best for the jobs.
It may be a case of not much profit on this job and buy 1 of each to use going forward, omg


Alex Gardiner

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2015, 07:39:39 pm »
Thanks Alex,

I need this size pole mate, so it's just a matter of which one is best, I have a new customer with a lot of sites so will be using the pole daily on these sites until finished. There is approx 100 sites, so a lot of work going forward, some are higher than 50 ft some are lower, I want it to be firm, strong with not much flex in the pole

Thanks

Matt

In my opinion using the pole on multiple sites at differing heights etc - the best option would be the Xtreme47 with 3x Std Extensions.

I used to have 2x Super-Lite Modular poles in my van and have never used them again since having an Xtreme47 in the van.

Matt.

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Re: New pole, for high level work
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2015, 10:47:02 pm »
Good info cheers mate,

Matt