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JSMC

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window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« on: April 08, 2015, 12:07:53 pm »
turned up at a job today and can see it smeared all over some of the new windows. An absolute mess it is. i'm always wary of soaping them up and using new scraper in case i damage them. This job today i never even bothered. I'm  going to tell the owner to get the guy back to clean it as i think it may take a while.

anyone else get this  now n then.

sunshine windows

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 12:20:35 pm »
Feeling for you there JSMC. I had an easy £40 bi-monthly job that I lost  because of cowboy installers.

They had new Windows installed and there were smears all over every window.


Told the customer it would cost around £100 to get them all spotless and never heard from them again.
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sunshine windows

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 12:22:07 pm »
Whenever I know a customer is having windows installed nowadays I always advise them to check for mastic smears once the installers have finished, as I won't remove it with a regular maintenance clean.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

lal

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 03:13:15 pm »

What do you actually use to get sealant/silica off the glass cheers.

Lal

Matt.

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 03:37:32 pm »
Proper window cleaning scraper blades, soak up first, as long as you don't turn the blade sideways you won't have a problem. I come across this a lot with day to day jobs.
If it's domestic work and a window is say 18" wide by 36" long then each window will prob take about 3/4 mins extra off a ladder,
Using wfp will do absolutely nothing to it as the water will run off the silicone, if you do this job normally with wfp then take your ladders off and charge accordingly. But plenty of rinse at the end.

It's not hard mate, quite easy tbh. If you do t have any blades, get on eBay, 2 x scrapers & 1 free with about 15 blades £7, a box of 100 blades is about the same price.

JSMC

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 09:57:52 pm »
it is a ball ache dealing with it. Customer called me today as i had left a message. Told him to get back onto them pronto.

Joey Eastwood

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015, 11:48:23 pm »
before i was a window cleaner i was a window fitter lol, sometimes it cant be helped, if you have sillicone all over your gloves up there its gonna get everywhere, and the last thing i used to think about waas the window cleaner getting it off. the  best way to get it off is a dry rub with a scrim/cloth. water or cleaning solution is practically useless as silicones job is to be waterproof.
when life throws you water, clean windows

Jonny 87

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 07:26:27 am »
^^^^^

So your one of the cowboy window fitters. Lol

I've found virosol ( neat ) used first, and rubbed with a microfibre brings a lot off. Then what's left you have to use a razor.

Short movements with the blade, a few inches at a time and then lifting off. If you run your scraper all over the glass the risk is grit or something else getting trapped between the blade and the glass. This is what causes scratches.

I must be a mug, but it usually do it for my customers and explain that I had to spend a bit of time on it. It usually bodes well for customer relations.

Something else I may do if it is very bad, is just point out that the windows are covered in silicone, but say every time I visit there property I will concentrate on one window,then eventually they will have silicone free windows. That way it doesn't take too much time out your day.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Jonny 87

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 07:28:35 am »
Bronze wool pads can work well too. Takes longer than a razor though.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Joey Eastwood

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Re: window fitters and sealant / silica on glass
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 08:48:13 pm »
^^^^^

So your one of the cowboy window fitters. Lol

I've found virosol ( neat ) used first, and rubbed with a microfibre brings a lot off. Then what's left you have to use a razor.

Short movements with the blade, a few inches at a time and then lifting off. If you run your scraper all over the glass the risk is grit or something else getting trapped between the blade and the glass. This is what causes scratches.

I must be a mug, but it usually do it for my customers and explain that I had to spend a bit of time on it. It usually bodes well for customer relations.

Something else I may do if it is very bad, is just point out that the windows are covered in silicone, but say every time I visit there property I will concentrate on one window,then eventually they will have silicone free windows. That way it doesn't take too much time out your day.

used to be haha ;)  was more industrial glazing though but did the odd domestic jobs. sometimes u get a bit of silicone on the glass and wipe it away and it leaves a horrible thin smear thats a nightmare to get off and hard to see unless the sun is shining on it
when life throws you water, clean windows