[steven jones]

Hi duncan,

My pole isnt a gardiner pole, its a tubeless pole,
so its in a different League.
Plus theres no vat to Pay on my Poles at the Moment.
selling with the aqua dapter was not an option, that everyone wanted.

[PoleKing]

Hi duncan,

My pole isnt a gardiner pole, its a tubeless pole,
so its in a different League.
Plus theres no vat to Pay on my Poles at the Moment.
selling with the aqua dapter was not an option, that everyone wanted.

You might get promoted.

[Spruce]

Thank you for your reply the clamps are in my mind the most important part of pole longevity we have 12 Gardiners poles various sizes some now need replacing so needed more info on Ex-ceed, thank you for your imput.Alex gardiner has developed a great clamp even,Nasa engineers would be proud of.

 

Not sure I would make that comparison. After all, the story goes that Nasa spent millions on designing a pen that would write in zero gravity and position in space. The Russians just gave their astronauts pencils to write with.  

Personally I think the spring loaded clamp assist is very simple but brilliant in its concept. Being patented would mean that the other manufacturers clamps just wouldn't work as well.

My everyday SLX22 pole is over 3 years old and still on its original clamps which still work well. There is no reason why the new Ex-ceed pole should be any different as far as the operation of its clamps are concerned. The only future issue Ex-ceed will have to address is the wear rate of the pole and the clamps effectiveness when this starts to become a factor.

[steven jones]

Hi Spruce,

There is no need for a spring in our clamp.

what happens with the clamp we use is where the pole may become uneven, the clamp flexes more, in those places

It is very simple but affective.

Steven.

[Smudger]

When you say flex's more do you mean it's thinner and cheaply made ??

Darran

[steven jones]

Hi Smudger

Very funny

[Smudger]

Always 2 ways to look at a statement 


Darran

[duncan h]

Hi duncan,

My pole isnt a gardiner pole, its a tubeless pole,
so its in a different League.
Plus theres no vat to Pay on my Poles at the Moment.
selling with the aqua dapter was not an option, that everyone wanted.

Not arguing that fact Steve.
 My point is, the price keeps going up by massive amounts. Aqua Dapter was free. Its now £40 extra.

[steven jones]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

[duncan h]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

They get a valve !
You should be able to reduce it by something. Surely they cost something to produce and less than a valve
Now you have people like me, who want Aqua Dapter. Who was original interested in trying a new product, which was cheaper(than SLX) and included Aqua Dapter as a bonus incentive(£50). This no longer is available, but worse. Its now extra.
It just doesn't make sense.
You cant bring a new product out, saying Aqua Dapter comes free, then remove that bonus  shortly after it hits the market

[tlwcs]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

They get a valve !
You should be able to reduce it by something. Surely they cost something to produce and less than a valve
Now you have people like me, who want Aqua Dapter. Who was original interested in trying a new product, which was cheaper(than SLX) and included Aqua Dapter as a bonus incentive(£50). This no longer is available, but worse. Its now extra.
It just doesn't make sense.
You cant bring a new product out, saying Aqua Dapter comes free, then remove that bonus  shortly after it hits the market

Hey Duncan, get in touch with him off the forum and I'm sure he may do you a deal.
He's a descent bloke, just busy
Tony

[ChumBucket]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

They get a valve !
You should be able to reduce it by something. Surely they cost something to produce and less than a valve
Now you have people like me, who want Aqua Dapter. Who was original interested in trying a new product, which was cheaper(than SLX) and included Aqua Dapter as a bonus incentive(£50). This no longer is available, but worse. Its now extra.
It just doesn't make sense.
You cant bring a new product out, saying Aqua Dapter comes free, then remove that bonus  shortly after it hits the market

He can, it's his choice. No doubt things have changed for them business wise & although he may have offered the AD as part of the deal initially obviously this isn't financially viable any longer. Personally I think it's better to have the choice with these things- nothing is just thrown in for free & I don't want to be paying for something I don't require.  

[duncan h]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

They get a valve !
You should be able to reduce it by something. Surely they cost something to produce and less than a valve
Now you have people like me, who want Aqua Dapter. Who was original interested in trying a new product, which was cheaper(than SLX) and included Aqua Dapter as a bonus incentive(£50). This no longer is available, but worse. Its now extra.
It just doesn't make sense.
You cant bring a new product out, saying Aqua Dapter comes free, then remove that bonus  shortly after it hits the market

Hey Duncan, get in touch with him off the forum and I'm sure he may do you a deal.
He's a descent bloke, just busy
Tony

I know he his mate

[duncan h]

Hi duncan,

The problem we would have is if people just wanted the pole like some do, they would expect to pay £40 less.

They get a valve !
You should be able to reduce it by something. Surely they cost something to produce and less than a valve
Now you have people like me, who want Aqua Dapter. Who was original interested in trying a new product, which was cheaper(than SLX) and included Aqua Dapter as a bonus incentive(£50). This no longer is available, but worse. Its now extra.
It just doesn't make sense.
You cant bring a new product out, saying Aqua Dapter comes free, then remove that bonus  shortly after it hits the market

He can, it's his choice. No doubt things have changed for them business wise & although he may have offered the AD as part of the deal initially obviously this isn't financially viable any longer. Personally I think it's better to have the choice with these things- nothing is just thrown in for free & I don't want to be paying for something I don't require.  

If Alex banged £40 on ever pole, there would be a riot lmao

[steven jones]

Hi duncan,

What size pole you want and i will do you a deal

Steven.

[david mark]

Do me a deal. I'm after the 25 full carbon with Ad

[Mr. S]

Hi Steve, I've been looking at your pole as in in the market to renew mine!
Not been able to find info on how it is hoseless? Is there a hose inside of type if do does/ will it ever need replacing? Looks good , I just like to understand how things work?

[duncan h]

Hi Steve, I've been looking at your pole as in in the market to renew mine!
Not been able to find info on how it is hoseless? Is there a hose inside of type if do does/ will it ever need replacing? Looks good , I just like to understand how things work?

Hes got videos. Its got connection in first section, inside pole. You then join thin pipe to reel hose with a joiner/straight connector. Unfortunately its not hoseless. They don't do WIFI for water YET 

[Mr. S]

Hi Steve, I've been looking at your pole as in in the market to renew mine!
Not been able to find info on how it is hoseless? Is there a hose inside of type if do does/ will it ever need replacing? Looks good , I just like to understand how things work?

Hes got videos. Its got connection in first section, inside pole. You then join thin pipe to reel hose with a joiner/straight connector. Unfortunately its not hoseless. They don't do WIFI for water YET 

Hi Duncan, very funny Wifi!!! :-)
If there was wifi for water filling my ibc and tank would be easy! Lol :-)

Obviously there is some type of tube inside the pole, what if this leaks, it must be a type of flexible hose so what if it wears or snaps???
I've seen the videos and having no hose out the bottom makes sense!

[steven jones]

Hi Mr Smiles,

Hose is very easy to change, takes around 2 mins to do, but it will be unlikely it needs changing.

Steven.