[david mark]

I've used gardener's poles for the past 6 years, the quality of there lateral clamps have extended the life of the pole I,e no spinning on the worn part of the pole even on the hybrid range.Looking on the videos of Ex-ceed poles I like the design of the hose less pole when not in use but they don't mention if there clamps automatically adjust when the pole starts to ware.

Does the clamp have to manually be adjusted when the pole starts to ware down.Also the new A.D does the spring still slap after a few months like the early models.

[tlwcs]

Hi, I have the Gardiners 22 extreme SLX 18 and slx 30 all with new clamps.
Over Christmas I bought the exceed 22 carbon because I liked the tubeless idea and had the slx30 adapted to ake that tubeless too.

I have just finished the third week with the exceed set up.
Positives, love not having water leak from the pole hose, love the quality and stiffness of the pole, the quick release angle adapter, no pole hose loop and the ease of adding a section if needed

Average points, the aqua adapta. It still fails to operate 100% of the time and I find myself yanking the hose repeatedly like a 12 year old who has just found a Penthouse magazine. Steves a decent bloke but can be slow in any replies (although that may be a little harsh)

Negatives, the clamps, they are a backward step after the Gardiners sprung loaded improvement. When the pole is extended and the A/d is sticking and I'm yanking the hose, I have had the pole collapse down as the clamps are just not holding it tight enough. The levers flop about just as the first Gardiners one did.

Hth
Tony

[Soupy]

According to Steven Jones at exceed innovation, he doesn't look at other poles on the market while designing his, so it's doubtful this feature would be available for his pole. Also I believe Mr Gardiner has patented that particular idea.

[david mark]

Thank you for your reply the clamps are in my mind the most important part of pole longevity we have 12 Gardiners poles various sizes some now need replacing so needed more info on Ex-ceed, thank you for your imput.Alex gardiner has developed a great clamp even,Nasa engineers would be proud of.

[tlwcs]

Thank you for your reply the clamps are in my mind the most important part of pole longevity we have 12 Gardiners poles various sizes some now need replacing so needed more info on Ex-ceed, thank you for your imput.Alex gardiner has developed a great clamp even,Nasa engineers would be proud of.

Stephen did facebook message me last week saying he would send out some locking nuts to cure this. We shall see.
Tony

[Lee GLS]

The exceed pole has an oring in the place that Gardiners have the spring I assume to act in the same way so the clamp can adjust to pole wear. Wether it is as good only time will tell

[tlwcs]

It's not. I took a Gardiners bolt asembly and fitted it to the exceed but it was just a tad to short and the hole was to small to accept the spring. I have the first clamp with a spring fitted onto the bolt in the void section of the clamp, it helps a little.

[Lee GLS]

I very rarely have a problem with operating the aquadapter, the only time is if I turn it in with wheel when I'm doing a downstairs window and leave the wheel in the wrong place.

The springs are always going to snap in time because they are in constant use, but the are not that hard to replace

[duncan h]

I very rarely have a problem with operating the aquadapter, the only time is if I turn it in with wheel when I'm doing a downstairs window and leave the wheel in the wrong place.

The springs are always going to snap in time because they are in constant use, but the are not that hard to replace

I love my Aqua Dapter. Best thing since sliced bread. Only thing is when I am putting pole back in van. If the hose catches on say my tyre. Water goes all over van 

[steven jones]

The exceed pole has an oring in the place that Gardiners have the spring I assume to act in the same way so the clamp can adjust to pole wear. Wether it is as good only time will tell

Hi Lee,
the o-ring, was to help with resistance, to help the bolt not come loose, but as In tlwcs case, the thumb adjustment still came loose, causing the handle to flop.
thankfully we have cracked it.
we tried locking nuts that stopped this but you could not turn the thumb wheel by hand as it was to tight.
but now we have found a nut that stops the handle coming loose but easy enough to turn.
I have contacted tlwcs, and said I will send him these locking nuts for free.
as regards aqua dapter not working 100%, we are going to harden the spring.
To be honest we only designed the aqua dapter for 18 to 25ft poles, that are everyday, and constantly extended up and down, so your able to save water between, these stages.
as standard now, we fit a flow valve at the brush head, with the aqua dapter as another option.

[Smudger]

The exceed pole has an oring in the place that Gardiners have the spring I assume to act in the same way so the clamp can adjust to pole wear. Wether it is as good only time will tell

Hi Lee,
the o-ring, was to help with resistance, to help the bolt not come loose, but as In tlwcs case, the thumb adjustment still came loose, causing the handle to flop.
thankfully we have cracked it.
we tried locking nuts that stopped this but you could not turn the thumb wheel by hand as it was to tight.
but now we have found a nut that stops the handle coming loose but easy enough to turn.
I have contacted tlwcs, and said I will send him these locking nuts for free.
as regards aqua dapter not working 100%, we are going to harden the spring.
To be honest we only designed the aqua dapter for 18 to 25ft poles, that are everyday, and constantly extended up and down, so your able to save water between, these stages.
as standard now, we fit a flow valve at the brush head, with the aqua dapter as another option.

That's quite an admission

Darran

[steven jones]

The exceed pole has an oring in the place that Gardiners have the spring I assume to act in the same way so the clamp can adjust to pole wear. Wether it is as good only time will tell

Hi Lee,
the o-ring, was to help with resistance, to help the bolt not come loose, but as In tlwcs case, the thumb adjustment still came loose, causing the handle to flop.
thankfully we have cracked it.
we tried locking nuts that stopped this but you could not turn the thumb wheel by hand as it was to tight.
but now we have found a nut that stops the handle coming loose but easy enough to turn.
I have contacted tlwcs, and said I will send him these locking nuts for free.
as regards aqua dapter not working 100%, we are going to harden the spring.
To be honest we only designed the aqua dapter for 18 to 25ft poles, that are everyday, and constantly extended up and down, so your able to save water between, these stages.
as standard now, we fit a flow valve at the brush head, with the aqua dapter as another option.

yes we could never see the benefit of using aqua dapter on highrise poles, as it is not a pole that is constantly extended and different situations.
aqua can be used on high poles but will not work as well.

[david mark]

Can you use rectus 26 on your Exceed poles or is the set up only for rectus 21

[steven jones]

Can you use rectus 26 on your Exceed poles or is the set up only for rectus 21

Hi Mark,
rectus 21only
they are lasting alot longer,(4 x) since being in ejector sleeve.
There easy to change if they do wear, take a look at video's at www.ex-ceedinnovation.co.uk

[duncan h]

The exceed pole has an oring in the place that Gardiners have the spring I assume to act in the same way so the clamp can adjust to pole wear. Wether it is as good only time will tell

Hi Lee,
the o-ring, was to help with resistance, to help the bolt not come loose, but as In tlwcs case, the thumb adjustment still came loose, causing the handle to flop.
thankfully we have cracked it.
we tried locking nuts that stopped this but you could not turn the thumb wheel by hand as it was to tight.
but now we have found a nut that stops the handle coming loose but easy enough to turn.
I have contacted tlwcs, and said I will send him these locking nuts for free.
as regards aqua dapter not working 100%, we are going to harden the spring.
To be honest we only designed the aqua dapter for 18 to 25ft poles, that are everyday, and constantly extended up and down, so your able to save water between, these stages.
as standard now, we fit a flow valve at the brush head, with the aqua dapter as another option.

So you have to turn the valve on (tap) then extend pole, do window, lower then turn tap off? Don't like that idea at all

[steven jones]

Hi duncan,

That is an option, but there is a dropdown Box on densité, add an aqua dapter.

[kempy]

Aqua adaptor for me is simply AWESOME

[tlwcs]

I've taken the nipple bit out of mine cleaned it and refitted. Hopefully this will help.
Can wd40 be sprayed on the wheel bit?
But yes, great bit of kit.

[duncan h]

Aqua adaptor for me is simply AWESOME

Me too mate. I love them
 Pointless having tap at head. Bottom YES, Top NO

[duncan h]

Hi duncan,

That is an option, but there is a dropdown Box on densité, add an aqua dapter.

Not sure whats going off at your place. Since before Christmas, prices are all over the place. A 18ft carbon is now £40 extra for Aqua Dapter. Total £270. Then you have to buy a brush 
Gardiner is £207 then you have to buy Aqua Dapter. You are now charging more than Alex. Before it worked out at much less