[gwrightson]

Any suggestion's welcome.

I have been asked to  quote for cleaning and sealing a wood floor in a very busy bar/music venue, the floor itself has a build up of waxes beer spills and lord knows what else over many, many years. The floor is buffed every week using various polishes by the in house cleaner, it is so bad that you actually do stick to the floor.

I looked at this floor early last year and after explaining to the manager it needs a complete restoration they declined saying not with n the budget, and continued buffing. How ever a new manager has now taken over, I have talked to him on the phone and visiting the site in the morning, he tells me he would like a quote for applying a sealer of some sorts to prevent the stickiness   as they like the colour of the floor" Black" whi.ch it is due to all the crap on it.
 He informs me the last place he came from they had a similar problem and some body just cleaned and sealed it.
Can any body suggest any thing apart from the obvious complete renovation,and is their such a sealer?

Here,s hoping  Geoff

[gwrightson]

So, I am guessing nobody has a clue     

Ok another question, what machine, tools or chemicals would you even start to get the floor something like?

Geoff

[Kev Martin]

You need Jamie from CSUK for this or Terry Guildford I know sweet FA about wood sorry

[SM101]

A lot of the problem apart from the beer glaze etc. is what the cleaners are using as if it's an alkaline based product it will leave a sticky residue, they will be using too much detergent. What you need to do is firstly try cleaning it with Chemspec Neutral floor cleaner using a scrubber brush on your rotary machine to get rid of this film, then after you can use a product called wood solv no sanding prep using a red floor pad which will clean and etch the floor surface of the old finish so that the protective coating has something to grip to. Once this has been done then you apply the wood solv finish. If you need any more help on this give me a call on 01274 597333.

[gwrightson]

Thank you Sarah,

Now I have some thing to go on, I will indeed give you a call if I need to, thanks.

I am going back to site today , I will get some pics, hard to describe exactly how much d
build up their actually is.
geoff

[trevor perry]

I think the minute you apply anything to clean this surface you will start to remove some of the build up this will result in making the floor even more sticky, trying to seal over the dirt in my opinion is a very bad idea.
 Personally I would suggest that the floor be totally stripped back of all dirt and then sealed, if the original colour of the floor is not black then they will either have to get used to the new colour or leave as it is and put up with it being sticky

[gwrightson]

I think the minute you apply anything to clean this surface you will start to remove some of the build up this will result in making the floor even more sticky, trying to seal over the dirt in my opinion is a very bad idea.
 Personally I would suggest that the floor be totally stripped back of all dirt and then sealed, if the original colour of the floor is not black then they will either have to get used to the new colour or leave as it is and put up with it being sticky

...........Trevor, inclined to agree with you, hence the question What would be the best machine and tools?
and of course they can always have it stained black.

Geoff

[B Bailey]

I had same problem a couple of years ago, stripped it back and it looked great, just about to lay primer and they said no we want it black again, so had to stain it.

[gwrightson]

I had same problem a couple of years ago, stripped it back and it looked great, just about to lay primer and they said no we want it black again, so had to stain it.

So could you tell me what product/s and machine/s  you used?

I have yet to have a meeting with the new manager, and yet to get some pics, but I do know  a normal stripper wont touch it, I am even thinking along the lines of caustic soda to try improve.

Geoff