[Frankybadboy]

you tell um dave 

[kempy]

I've never used , bought or seen  GG4 .
Just like ive not used many other products .
GG4 could be Excellant , it could be poor .

I cAnt  comment on it as ive never used it . Simples

[Dave Willis]

So why did you comment on it?
That's your quote above in black and white.

[8weekly]

So why did you comment on it?
That's your quote above in black and white.

PR. Innit.

[kempy]

ECOVER is what I have commented on . Used it for a while with various other ingrediants that we still use in Vision .
Ecover was poor on hot days .
But GG4 , I have never even seen it .


Simply not used it .
And that's being honest .

If it's working for you then great .

[kempy]

Id love to see any quotes where I have commented on GG4 .
I would be truly amazed to see this .

hey-ho , off to do a commercial clean in -1 , hope it warms up

[Dave Willis]

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=192411.msg1665722#msg1665722

Selective memory? The post was all about GG4 - remember?

I suppose you could be rambling about something else but it wasn't clear.

[kempy]

Yes ive just read that Dave .... And ....
Where's it say GG4

On my kids lives ive never used or seen it .
Again I'm baffled .

Ecover was very goid , but come summer and impossible to judge how much was in the tank it was proved to be very poor in hot weather and if a build up in your tank was poor .
Vision has overcome that above point .

It's good that you've come across GG4 , but don't mis- quote me as it's unfair .
I'm pleased for you Dave Willis if this works for you , I won't be saying anything negative as ive simply never used or tried it

[SeanK]

Id never use Ecover in your Pure Water .
Because when using ECOVER in your pure water in summer it dries terribly of the windows . On a hot day the water dries very quick and ECOVER is just not upto it .

I take it when you say it dries terribly you mean it leaves spots or smears, so why would the hot weather make a difference
to this ?
If the TDS is the same and the dirt is removed then the glass drying quicker wont make a difference.
Why would it be harder to judge the amount of ECOVER your putting into your tank compared to any other product ?

[heath verrall]

I don't understand  Are you adding gg4 to your pure water,

[dazmond]

I don't understand  Are you adding gg4 to your pure water,

cmon mate catch up lad!yes daves adding gg4 to his pure water for added shine/easier cleaning.

[kempy]

SeanK
Ecover does alter your Tds .
It does clean well and shines .
But believe me , during hot spells in summer it was terrible on a round I did .
Also for others too .
It must not dry well when the drying process is speeded  up .
Plus it suds up in your Tank a lot .
That's only my findings and advice . Obviously persons may use Ecover better than what I did . But  it was terrible compared to what Vision has moved onto .

[Dave Willis]

Kempy I posted about GG4 then you came on and said you'd tried a mix and it didn't work in the summer. I presumed you were referring to GG4 as that was what the whole post was about.
Having re-read your post I suppose you could have been talking about any mix - you weren't specific.
Sorry for any misunderstanding but you didn't mention Ecover either.

[Bungle]

Foot note>when i used GG3/4 when tradding i always find it did leave a nice shine

I've used gg3 and gg4 when tradding and hated the stuff as it never seemed to froth up enough for my liking. Interesting to read that tanks of pure are getting a froth from adding gg4.

[Dave Willis]

I found that too - hardly any foam on an applicator yet with a much weaker solution it froths like mad in the tank. I've started measuring it out now at 1000 to 1.

[Bungle]

I found that too - hardly any foam on an applicator yet with a much weaker solution it froths like mad in the tank. I've started measuring it out now at 1000 to 1.

Keep us posted Dave. I've got 5 litres of Unger Liquid that's been sat in my garage for donkeys. If I'm snowed off tomorrow, I'm going to experiment with my trolley set up.

[Jonny 87]

I found that too - hardly any foam on an applicator yet with a much weaker solution it froths like mad in the tank. I've started measuring it out now at 1000 to 1.

So you put in half a litre of gg4 per 500 litre tank?

Sounds a lot to me.

But if it works well for you then keep going Dave. Keep us posted.

[duncan h]

I found that too - hardly any foam on an applicator yet with a much weaker solution it froths like mad in the tank. I've started measuring it out now at 1000 to 1.

Keep us posted Dave. I've got 5 litres of Unger Liquid that's been sat in my garage for donkeys. If I'm snowed off tomorrow, I'm going to experiment with my trolley set up.

SNOWED OFF !!!! where do you live?

[Dave Willis]

I found that too - hardly any foam on an applicator yet with a much weaker solution it froths like mad in the tank. I've started measuring it out now at 1000 to 1.

So you put in half a litre of gg4 per 500 litre tank?

Sounds a lot to me.
 


But if it works well for you then keep going Dave. Keep us posted.
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Oops
1mil per 100Litres of pure

[Dave Willis]

I've been using about 1ml of GG4 per 100l of pure

I have no idea if Unger liquid is any good - I found it crap for cleaning windows.