[Dave Willis]

It's so crap!!










this is a large commercial job I've done for about four years. Looks great .......... until I was asked to clean the insides!
Powder coated aluminium frames. I know they are trouble they are oxidised and have vents very close to the glass hense I try very hard to rinse only the glass up to the seal - every window is the same never had a complaint but if I was the director I'd sack the cleaner!
Suggestions welcomed.

[Frankybadboy]

if you havent had a compliant and getting paid stop worry and get on with the job end of

[Window Lickers]

After you've cleaned go back and rinse again, but turn the flow down, keeping the brush on the glass.

[Clever Forum Name]

Vision.

[mufcglen]

I've got a commercial office that has these frames, hadn't been cleaned since new over 5 yrs ago, first clean was a nightmare but just went over them twice and warned them about possible marks, 2nd time I went and then on spot on but I did scrub the hell out of the frames first time and did a lot of rinsing!

[ChumBucket]

I have some the same on a very large house. Funnily, half of them are oxidised & the other half not- goes without saying I only had problems with the oxidised ones.

Anyhow, here's what to do.

You cannot get water on the oxidised alu'. Put brush on glass & press to splay bristles. Slowly move the brush up to the top edge of the beading (there should be a thin rubber seal between glass & alu'). Only let the tips of the bristles touch this seal & move the brush left to right, kind of gently agitating the seal. That's it for the top 6" of the glass, so come down & clean the rest of the glass but don't move so aggressively that you push/splash any water onto that top bead- that must stay dry. When the rest of the glass has been scrubbed, gently do the same as before, splay the bristles, move them so they "just" touch the rubber seal & slowly move them from one corner to the other. Pull the brush down 6", lift off & rinse from there downwards as normal. Bear in mind the effects of fan jets or wind as you don't want any water being blown onto that top bead. It might seem a faff to begin with but perfect this method & you can clean any window wfp regardless of what problems a top frame might present. By splaying the bristles you are preventing water from reaching or splashing the top bead whilst also being able to clean 100% of the glass. I clean a lot of large country houses with old oxidised, knackered sash windows. Cleaning the top frame or even touching it isn't an option so I've had to perfect this technique over the last ten years!!

Hope that makes sense.

[Smudger]

Bad workman and all that Dave.....

Seriously, how often do you clean these?

Next time take some g101 mixed at 20% and spray the frames and top edge of the glass, yes the clean will take longer, but you'll get great results and future cleans will be like a normal regular clean.

Don't avoid the frames, or faff with them, a good scrub and rinse is required, as Matt then revisit with a final rinse glass only

Darran

[gary999]

If ground and first floor, squeegee on pole and blade dry take seconds

[SeanK]

Those spots look to be ingrained into the glass, so your first plan of action would be to check this out.
Spots caused by dodgy seals or frames tend to be in vertical runs down the glass.
The only other thing that could cause that type of spotting is if you have missed that part of the glass.

[ChumBucket]

Bad workman and all that Dave.....

Seriously, how often do you clean these?

Next time take some g101 mixed at 20% and spray the frames and top edge of the glass, yes the clean will take longer, but you'll get great results and future cleans will be like a normal regular clean.

Don't avoid the frames, or faff with them, a good scrub and rinse is required, as Matt then revisit with a final rinse glass only

Darran

No amount of G101 is going to make a jot with oxidised aluminium.

[Dave Willis]

Two opposite methods there 

When I took the job on I scrubbed everything and went round twice. It's cleaned every three months. I work very much the same as Chum. I was wondering if it was because the jets are below the edge of the brush that the rinse was in fact falling short of the bead. If they complain then I'll have to go round and superscrub the whole lot twice. Wouldn't make much money though. 

[Smudger]

Yep differing opinions, and differing results 

Darran

[SeanK]

Dave it doesn't matter what the frames are made of, the fact is if you scrub and rinse the glass right
which I'm sure you do then the glass will be spot and dirt free.
So these spots either have to be ingrained or they have to come from dirty water running down
onto the clean glass from the frame or seals.
I don't know about you but to me they don't look as if they have run onto the glass as they don't have the right pattern.
Even if you haven't rinsed the frame properly I still don't think you would get those type of spots, you would more than likely get brush marks where you would have rubbed the glass and not removed all of the dirt.