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slap bash

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Builder cleans
« on: December 16, 2014, 10:33:18 am »
I need some guidence of builders cleans they are larger 4 bed homes any idea on pricing. These homes are ot heavy soil by the builders. If you have done some with different speck then tell me what you did and what you charged for them.Any help will be appreciated. Most of the work goes around the glass, bathrooms,floors and kitchens. I know what time it will take but need  so thing to compare to. Thank Slappy.

slap bash

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 04:30:50 pm »
Come on Guys no one do builders clean anymore?

Soupy

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 04:40:19 pm »
I tend to avoid builders cleans but here is what I've learned:

Whatever you price it at, double it and add £10. it still wont be enough.

Check EVERY WINDOW for scratches BEFORE you start and point them out to the foreman. If you don't and they are scratched you will get the blame regardless of any waiver you have.
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Ian101

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 04:51:27 pm »
I have no experience of builders what so ever but charge high, be prepared to be blamed for everything that's already damaged, be prepared to wait ages to be paid ... but only what Ive read on here over the years  :)

DEEGE is the man you need to talk to on here.

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 04:51:52 pm »
what area you in and is the builder a volume builder i.e. one of the plc 's
I  can give you some rough prices , we calculate by the square ft and add for travel if any distance over 45mins
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deeege

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 05:15:25 pm »
We do quite a few for the high volume national builders. Cscs will be needed. Most of the work is in the detaping of the frames after the painters have finished. The glass will have been covered with film so 90% of the time will just need a normal clean. Equipment to have with you is mop, squeegee, Stanley scraper, fresh blade, Stanley knife (to cut into the frame to remove tape) and a dry paint brush to British out any dust from the sill.

You will only make this kind of work pay if you are quick. (Or employ reasonably quick staff)

3 bed around 1.5 hours.
4 bed around 2 hours.
5 bed upto 3.5 hours.

The people that tell you they won't do build cleans because of silicone on the glass are not talking about this type of work. With your smaller local builders then expect silicone and messy sites but the Nationals are not like that. We will be doing upwards of 50 plots this month and there will be exactly 0 silicone to remove.

You will be expected to be able to do the clean after the painter and before the mastic man is booked in, most sites we get a weeks notice but some sites are less organised.

Not gonna discuss prices but there is money to be made with the right setup.
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Smurf

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 05:23:44 pm »
Builders cleans can be a right pain in the arse even new builds so I don't do them anymore.

Ian101

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 06:17:24 pm »
We do quite a few for the high volume national builders. Cscs will be needed. Most of the work is in the detaping of the frames after the painters have finished. The glass will have been covered with film so 90% of the time will just need a normal clean. Equipment to have with you is mop, squeegee, Stanley scraper, fresh blade, Stanley knife (to cut into the frame to remove tape) and a dry paint brush to British out any dust from the sill.

You will only make this kind of work pay if you are quick. (Or employ reasonably quick staff)

3 bed around 1.5 hours.
4 bed around 2 hours.
5 bed upto 3.5 hours.

The people that tell you they won't do build cleans because of silicone on the glass are not talking about this type of work. With your smaller local builders then expect silicone and messy sites but the Nationals are not like that. We will be doing upwards of 50 plots this month and there will be exactly 0 silicone to remove.

You will be expected to be able to do the clean after the painter and before the mastic man is booked in, most sites we get a weeks notice but some sites are less organised.

Not gonna discuss prices but there is money to be made with the right setup.

like I say Deege is the man  ;)

pure tech

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 06:44:21 pm »
I tend to avoid builders cleans but here is what I've learned:

Whatever you price it at, double it and add £10. it still wont be enough.

Check EVERY WINDOW for scratches BEFORE you start and point them out to the foreman. If you don't and they are scratched you will get the blame regardless of any waiver you have.

How can you check every window on a new build for scratches when they are covered in dust especially on the inside where plasterers have been sanding etc.
I uncover the occasional scratch during new build cleaning and the builder appreciates that I was not responsible.

Mick Kent

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 10:32:42 pm »
I do loads of builders cleans, nice earners i find.
I got my cscs card because a good contact of mine recomended me to another firm who do lots of builders cleaning and specialist cleaning and they pass me all the london ones to be done, i sub some to another cleaner as i dont always get the time.
I charge my day rate as normally there the whole day. I have never been blamed for scratches or cracks, i just have to report back to them if i see anything that needs fixing or redoing.

slap bash

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2014, 01:14:05 am »
I don`t thin I will pic up problems as the chap wanting me to clean in the architect /money man in  development partnership. This fella only builds top end of the market and not more than 8/9 houses in the 650 to a million price range.I have been cleaning his house for 5 years and often do the house in and outside spending a day there. But I would like to give him a win/win  price. He has often said he would like to give me more work but I never taken him up on it.
I have seen draft plans of the houses they build in the past and  come with snooker table rooms, T V in the bathrooms and built in Hi Fi sound systems and  plumbed in coffee machines  eTc.

rosskesava

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2014, 01:25:03 am »
Think of a reasonable price and times it by four as that is what it's worth and often the contractor will pay up without even thinking about it as compared to their other costs, window cleaning is just a drop in the ocean and small time.

Also, it's also much harder work and usually takes much longer than you think.

Don't forget when invoicing to have a high price for materials which gets the deducted 20% or 30% paid tax down a bit.
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Soupy

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2014, 11:23:06 am »
I tend to avoid builders cleans but here is what I've learned:

Whatever you price it at, double it and add £10. it still wont be enough.

Check EVERY WINDOW for scratches BEFORE you start and point them out to the foreman. If you don't and they are scratched you will get the blame regardless of any waiver you have.

How can you check every window on a new build for scratches when they are covered in dust especially on the inside where plasterers have been sanding etc.
I uncover the occasional scratch during new build cleaning and the builder appreciates that I was not responsible.


You've got a good builder then.

IME if there are scratches on a window and the buyer complains about it the first port of call will always be the window cleaner. Usually you just have to point out one or two to the foreman before you start, that is enough for them to get the point that you are not going to be scratching anything which, if you are any use, you won't.

An entire estate round here had to have their windows replaced. We are talking 100s of houses. I have no idea who cleaned the windows or even if they got the blame for it but, I'm damn sure I would never find myself in the position where I could be blamed for something like that.

It only takes 2 minutes.
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Soupy

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2014, 11:44:19 am »
I don`t thin I will pic up problems as the chap wanting me to clean in the architect /money man in  development partnership. This fella only builds top end of the market and not more than 8/9 houses in the 650 to a million price range.

Those kind of buyers are more likely to be a problem not less. What would you do if you spent £1m on a house and the windows were scratched?
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MNWC

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2014, 07:40:00 pm »
3 x normal clean value

PoleKing

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2014, 07:48:17 pm »
3 x normal clean value

For me, that is absolutely nowhere near enough.
Each to their own though.
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britishwill

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2014, 08:40:05 pm »
I charge by the day for larger houses. The client will see us work and we report all damage to them. We take minimal breaks and work hard. If it takes longer they already know the price.

slap bash

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2014, 03:56:55 pm »
Thanks , it would be nice to get a price as no one prepared to help then.

Soupy

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2014, 04:56:46 pm »
Thanks , it would be nice to get a price as no one prepared to help then.

Jeez slap bash. I don't even give prices to customers without seeing the work.

There is some good advice about pricing in this thread already but at the end of the day it's up to you.
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the king

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Re: Builder cleans
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2014, 06:46:08 pm »
when i here builder clean i run in the other direction lmfao  ;D