[Window Lickers]

But you can edit your own post.

[Pj]

not me pj,i'm not admin so can't do any of that,others can though

Clowns

[Pj]

not me pj,i'm not admin so can't do any of that,others can though

Clowns

If you have modified your post that I replied to and then deny it your product loses credibility...  Why would I make it up?

[kevincoggan]

i did delete a post as my way of replying wasn't the easiest to explain,maybe it was that one kj? i aplolgise for that-ask your question/s again and i'll do my best to answer them for you if you would like

[paul ette]

this is getty silly, meerry xmas

[Pj]

i did delete a post as my way of replying wasn't the easiest to explain,maybe it was that one kj? i aplolgise for that-ask your question/s again and i'll do my best to answer them for you if you would like

Well, good of you to clear that up.

I had no question, I am just gradually trying to share my experience using your product.

As the glass is rinsed the water is full of tiny bubbles, these run down the window slower than water obviously as water is heavier than air.  You with me so far?
As the bubbles slowly run down they pop, they in themselves cause no spotting or marks but a few dirt specks contained within the bubbles remain on the glass.  Unless of course I rinse again.  Which slows the process down rather than speeds it up.

Maybe technique, I will try again next week.

[kevincoggan]

got you pj,and i am sorry about deleting a post-was just worded wrongley i felt,are you using a gardiners brush by any chance?(just trying to narrow down some things by my own experiences thats all)

[Mike #1]

After 2 days of use the amount of bubbles for me is an issue to a degree as on problem windows located near a flat porch roof which has deposited tiny specks of dirt on the glass .

I can't see clearly until the bubbles pop whether or not dirt is left on the glass so a double rinse has been needed , I will try adding vision every other day rather than each day of work .

Greater viscosity of the water could I worry cause issues with water freezing on glass in lower temps , Only used for 2 days so jury is still out it may take a few weeks to reach a more informed conclusion .

[Pj]

Well to be absolutely correct I use 4 different brushes.  Bentley (would you believe!) , 3 varieties of Gardiners, Vikan, and my original Ionics.  

[Pj]

Oh and all monofilament except the flocked vikan. 

I know it's down to the bubbles.  I Will give it a fair go though.


I only started this thread as I read that you wanted honest feedback.

[paulben]

To those that want to slate Vision without trying it remember the saying " DONT KNOCK IT TIL YOUV'E TRIED IT "

[Pj]

I'm trying it and I'm not knocking it?

[Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)]

Well I have tried it and I have to say is I love it and I will be buying it in bulk. Flow is smoother, cuts through crud better. rinsing seems better and  on completion the glass shines brighter.

Only downside is the current dispenser is more than a bit Pony ! Broke straight away. But Im using a 10mm syringe to overcome it while the good folks at JigSaw send me a replacement dispenser pump. And on that I have to say I like their customer service attitude. One email , replied quickly and offending part is on its way...

It works for me and thats all I need to say

[kempy]

We're lookingi into various bottles and tops . Maybe a screw cap and 13cm Syringe .

[Window Lickers]

I'm not sure how people can claim with Vision that they cut through the dirt easier. Regular cleans are a piece of cake regardless. You don't need it to be any easier.

I assume what they really mean is 'the brush glides over the glass a lot easier with Vision which makes me THINK it's cutting the dirt off easier, when it actual fact it isn't at all as the amount of dirt on this glass is minimal for a WFP setup on a regular clean'.

A couple of brush strokes without Vision is fine to clean glass, you're hardly going to cut through grime any easier than that.

[duncan h]

Just realised I missed a customer last week. He lives down the rd from me and not near any other customers. I just do it when passing.
Any way. I have a 250 ltr tank. It was about 3rd full. SO I popped a squirt in. I think it was a squirt, could have been a squirt and a bit as I wasn't sure how much pressure to use on plunger. drives down street and gave the van a good shake to mix it in.
Started cleaning. Nothing new, no bubbles. Went round back of house and BUBBLES! it was like a bubble bath lol. It was a tad more slippery...I think. It was hydrophobic glass and it didn't make it less phobic.I would say worse.
The main problem was how thick the water was. Its gloopy/sticky. I turned the pump up a bit before I started. Hated rinsing with it. Took me twice as long. Left bubbles in hope it was ok. Customer is spot on, so wont get a complaint anyway.
Next time I will turn pump up to max. I use fan nozzles which wont help with bubbles. My main gripe is how thick it is, making it slow at rinsing.
Next year ill give it a better test

[slap bash]

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[SeanK]

I'm not sure how people can claim with Vision that they cut through the dirt easier. Regular cleans are a piece of cake regardless. You don't need it to be any easier.

I assume what they really mean is 'the brush glides over the glass a lot easier with Vision which makes me THINK it's cutting the dirt off easier, when it actual fact it isn't at all as the amount of dirt on this glass is minimal for a WFP setup on a regular clean'.

A couple of brush strokes without Vision is fine to clean glass, you're hardly going to cut through grime any easier than that.

I actually think that new resin cleans better because every time I change mine bird muck and other things seem to melt on
the glass.
I know deep down its doesn't but I still see it, so I can understand why some people would think its making their cleans easier.
Mark Munro gives a fairly good review about the product on youtube and explains why some might think that's it removing
bird muck easier at this time of the year.

[Pj]

Just filled the tank full to brim so more than 650 litres plus 100 litres in containers added 7 ml of Vision.  Fairly big day tomorrow, mix of white painted woodwork frames and white Upvc windows.

I shall be watching very closely what I do and the results.  I have been cleaning all these windows every 6 weeks for 7 years, I know them all very well.

I will post results...

[AuRavelling79]

Just filled the tank full to brim so more than 650 litres plus 100 litres in containers added 7 ml of Vision.  Fairly big day tomorrow, mix of white painted woodwork frames and white Upvc windows.

I shall be watching very closely what I do and the results.  I have been cleaning all these windows every 6 weeks for 7 years, I know them all very well.

I will post results...

Tapping fingers PJ, tapping fingers.