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Jason Hedges

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Psi water usage!
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:40:41 pm »
Hi all,

I'm using a 135psi machine at the moment but am looking to upgrade in the very near future. I'm looking at a 300-500 psi machine.

Working on my own on bigger jobs I find time refilling and emptying the machine a real pain. I know about the cfr recycling issue but am not convinced, after seeing the colour of the water out of my machine on certain jobs from one rinse it makes me wonder about the process.

If I upgraded to a higher psi machine this would obviously mean I use more water faster but with fewer strokes and a deeper clean. But does this mean still even more regular emptying and refilling!

Am i any better off upgrading to a better portable or waiting until I can afford a truckmount? Or are there any cfr users that can comment on their system!

Kind regards,
Jason.

rice

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 01:02:12 am »
Hi jason,
I run CFR ozone 500 and like you Iwas iniatly suspect but it does work.I`ts not the colour of the water but it`s abillity to absorb soil.All you do is every 45-60 mins of cleaning top up with clean water using the vacume hose[only one tank] after 5-7 top ups empty and refill.If the soil levels get too high the pump switches off,but w`ere talking seriously crappy carpets here.I`ve yet to empty and refill on any of my  mainly domestic business.

Hope this helps
RICE.

Jason Hedges

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2006, 01:12:01 am »
Thanks RICE,

I like to sound of the cfr 500! Did you use other hwe machines or jump straight in with the cfr 500 ozone?

Kind regards,
Jason.

carpetclean

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2006, 05:54:13 am »
if you are concerned about the water  recycling  cfr do the power-flite which is the same spec as perfect heat except conventional tanks
NCCA   IICRC


name peter reed

Ed Valentine

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2006, 01:31:34 pm »
Jason;

On the surface, we normally believe that our water usage is related to the pump PSI,; however, this is not always the case. For example, the more common, 100-135 psi pump does not produce alot of GPM in the first place. What may be happening is that it is taking more flushing action (causes greater water usage) for you to get a carpet clean because you may not have enough---or the right--kind of vacuum/extraction performance.

Yes, I have focused more on "vacuum extraction" in this case.

It may be true that the right kind of pump, using the proper GPM, with the right sized jets causing the proper and effective  impact on the carpet is truly important, we tend to over-look the importance of the Extraction element. (And, this is why you had mentioned a TM)

Once you increase the air-flow in your extraction process, increase the impact (in a reasonable amount of PSI & GPM), you will actually clean faster; better results; and use alot less water! I know this from my own experience in the field, and when comparing smaller extractor with higher performing ones.

In conclusion, there are "High-performance machines"(Portables) out there that will help solve your problem. Keep researching! ;)

Good Fortune to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.

rice

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2006, 10:28:34 pm »
jason

I bonnet cleaned with chem dry for 15 years in Ireland.Four years ago I crossed the pond and changed to a ninja,but like you I found the refilling a pain, dumped the ninja in the garage,which I must get round to selling [400 psi built in heat x 125ft of hose about 100 hrs use have`nt a clue what it`s worth though!]and went back to bonnet cleaning.Three months ago I took the plunge again with CFR and am very pleased I did.

By the way,I clean with cold water and ozone all the time.
regards
RICE.

Art

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2006, 11:54:09 pm »
Rice,

 Where are you based? might be interested in the ninja. Have you got an email address?

Arthur

rice

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2006, 01:09:41 am »
ARTHUR

YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT eric.sayers70@ntlworld.com
machine is perfect but I`ll have to check out a price for you.Leave it till after the weekend as I`m up the walls with work at the moment thank g-d.


rice.

rice

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Re: Psi water usage!
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2006, 01:12:53 am »
ARTHUR

Sorry,forgot to say MANCHESTER.

RICE.

Art

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Re: Psi water usage! New
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2006, 01:20:43 am »
Ok no probs i'll be in touch next week.