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Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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High internal glass
« on: October 03, 2014, 07:09:42 am »
I have just been asked to price a first clean on a rather nice new build, the kind of thing you see on Grand designs..

The builders clean has been done and most of it is easy to do / price

However It has two 6m glass gables 8 huge panels in each.. The frames are such that we can't lean ladders against them and it has white carpets..

I usually just carefully trad internals but this needs a afferent approach..

I have had a look and see that there is a product called a dragonfly out there but can't find out much info about what poles can be used with it. does it attach to a pole using the normal screw like a brush? is it worth the money

What type of Dry pad / Microfibre / water spray setup do you guys use or recommend.

Dave Willis

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 07:13:19 am »
I think Gardiners do an adapter thread so you could use your wfp. Friend has the Unger version and says it's good. Not tried it myself.

Total shine cleaning services

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 07:22:21 am »
Hi Jim
We buy the unger cone adaptor from wintecs, we drill and screw this onto a 5 metre Harris pole, from wintecs as well we use the unger flat mop head that screws onto the adaptor along with the microfibre pads, a spray bottle with some pure in and you're away, we get the Harris poles from amazon, they're about £16 delivered, we use this on most of our internals and get good results, I'm assuming if there is carpet down etc that this is a maintenence clean rather than a first clean..?

Graham

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 07:31:10 am »
Hi Jim
We buy the unger cone adaptor from wintecs, we drill and screw this onto a 5 metre Harris pole, from wintecs as well we use the unger flat mop head that screws onto the adaptor along with the microfibre pads, a spray bottle with some pure in and you're away, we get the Harris poles from amazon, they're about £16 delivered, we use this on most of our internals and get good results, I'm assuming if there is carpet down etc that this is a maintenence clean rather than a first clean..?

Graham
Its got white carpet which is easy to cover with a roll of carpet protector. but this is a first clean and hopefully twice a year thereafter..

Clever Forum Name

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 07:47:36 am »
Could be tempted with a karcher vac on a pole? They do poles for them. Unsure of length and i would say it would be hard.

I did the same as mk shine a few years back.

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2014, 09:28:00 am »
just had a look on Gardners and they do the Vikan easy clean and a pole adaptor to fit my poles..

Ill just use a spray bottle and put pole up and down a few times..

I take it I will need a lot of the microfibre pads on a first clean?

SeanK

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2014, 10:06:45 am »
Firstly don't be tempted by the Dragonfly its overpriced for what it does.
If the window is near a kitchen or there are smokers in the property then you are going to be in trouble
using pads.
Just use pure but don't get the pad too wet just a light mist will do the job.
You need to price higher on this type of work as it can be time consuming to get a smear finish using pads.
The pads also take a fair grip on the glass so it can be hard graft.
I would still cover a white carpet just to be on the safe side.

SeanK

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 10:10:33 am »
Could be tempted with a karcher vac on a pole? They do poles for them. Unsure of length and i would say it would be hard.

I did the same as mk shine a few years back.

Karchers aren't great they just do an o.k. job and you will still need to detail, plus you still run the risk of dirty water dripping onto the walls and carpets

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2014, 02:00:38 pm »
Firstly don't be tempted by the Dragonfly its overpriced for what it does.
If the window is near a kitchen or there are smokers in the property then you are going to be in trouble
using pads.
Just use pure but don't get the pad too wet just a light mist will do the job.
You need to price higher on this type of work as it can be time consuming to get a smear finish using pads.
The pads also take a fair grip on the glass so it can be hard graft.
I would still cover a white carpet just to be on the safe side.
These are brand new windows and look a bit smeary rather than filthy. No smokers and no kitchen just 3m x75cm sheets of glass so its going to show any smearing like a so and so.. 

probably need to do it a couple of times to get it clean..

I think Ill get a set in and try it out on my home windows before I submit a price.. The alternative as I see it is a scaffold tower and that is a step too far..
The customer himself says it all looked great on the design but practicality is a nightmare..

Frankybadboy

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2014, 02:04:49 pm »
cant you use a double A-frame ladder ?

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2014, 02:59:43 pm »
cant you use a double A-frame ladder ?
restricted for room inside Frankie..  I was looking at one of these from Midland but Ill struggle to get at the corners... Its 20 feet from floor to top of the glass..  http://www.midlandladders.com/products/14ft_Faxko_Telescopic_Tripod_Ladder-521-146.html

Richard Stevenson

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2014, 03:20:28 pm »
i have used the unger pads on high level balcony glass at Dunn elm store, it did a top job from the start, surprised and impressed.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2014, 10:22:55 pm »
I would go along the same lines as Graham, take off plastic end cap from ext pole and slot in a 10 or 12 inch flat aluminum mop frame (the ones with velcro strips) which will grip microfiber cloths, use one damp to clean the surface, then take off the damp one and use a dry microfiber to polish off for a smear free finish, no need to worry about any drips on the carpet.

PoleKing

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2014, 11:23:00 pm »
i have used the unger pads on high level balcony glass at Dunn elm store, it did a top job from the start, surprised and impressed.

How are you getting on with pAymdnts at Dunelm?
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Dave Willis

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2014, 06:53:47 am »
Wot, no waffle cloth  ???

G Griffin

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Re: High internal glass
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2014, 09:04:09 am »
White carpets?
I'd go and quote the job in muddy work boots and you no longer have a quandary.
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2014, 09:48:48 am »
Wot, no waffle cloth  ???
Good man Dave you are always on the ball, yes of course i would recommend little waffle cloths we have been using microfiber technology now for over 20 years and i can say with confidence for cleaning internals they are supreme, i hear many guys say that its hard to get a smear free finish on internals, well if we ever have difficult glass to clean its out with the magic eraser pads and little waffle glass cloths as this combination will never let you down if you want a smear free finish.
You should try them out Dave i am sure you would be pleasantly surprised, you can get magic eraser pads everywhere now and the only other company i know that promote microfiber little waffle glass cloths are    ecloth  who have outlets all over the UK.

Dave Willis

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2014, 11:39:04 am »
I think I'd rather have a big waffle cloth to be honest  ;)

Who knows, I might start on a little one first and work my way up.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: High internal glass
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2014, 10:41:28 pm »
I think I'd rather have a big waffle cloth to be honest  ;)

Who knows, I might start on a little one first and work my way up.
Hi Dave, you know what they say a little goes a long way.