[paul13]

Forget made up trolleys.

Maplins trolley or similar, barrel, pump from ebay, either a controller (£50) or a voltage regulator (£5), hose, jubilee thingies, some wood and some thought about how to make the idea work, well under £100.

That's great But trolley won't last long.

[Mike #1]

I have been traditional just doing bungalows for year and a half.  It is a p/t gig (just Saturdays)I work in a language school during the week, but the money is crap and I do this for extra money.   I love window cleaning, but not sure if I want to go full time yet.  I also do a bit of gardening and handyman stuff and hoping to try my hands at a trade perhaps. My car is old and was planning to run it into the ground.   I have thought about a van, but I currently live in shared house cant have own RO (will buy water from a guy).  Maybe should get van, but other thing is girlfriend will have a baby in four months, i don't know if u can transport a baby in a van ?   

I guess a backpack is better than a trolley reading these arguments!



To put it bluntly WHY BOTHER WASTING YOUR MONEY ,  Only working on a Saturday ,Just doing bungalows , Buying water and Baby on the way .

Says it all really keep your money and spend it on the baby . Mike

[gary999]

As ross said forget the  overpriced trolleys they are a waste of money
just get a backpack £100 or use a pump directly from the car

[buzzing]

Ok big boy it is to get started with a view to a pump and reel running off a board.  

What about short poles which fold up enough to go on backseat-Ionics Grafter or pheonix?   How long? get one for 2 storey or 3?  

What brush?

Four 25 litre barrels

thought buy all this from windowcleaning warehouse.

[rosskesava]

That's great But trolley won't last long.

My £15 maplins trolley is still going strong after about 3 years of frequent use. I think it depends on the person as to how long something lasts.

[rosskesava]

Ok big boy it is to get started with a view to a pump and reel running off a board.  

What about short poles which fold up enough to go on backseat-Ionics Grafter or pheonix?   How long? get one for 2 storey or 3?  

What brush?

Four 25 litre barrels

thought buy all this from windowcleaning warehouse.

35ft will do most 2nd floor places maybe even the 3rd. 28ft will do all 1st floor and sometimes the 2nd. The vast majority of my work I do with a 28ft pole.

The longer the pole, the longer it's closed length. Which an ionics pole, the sections separate dead easy. I don't know about other makes.

As for the brush, it's personal choice. I use an Unger brush. Others on here swear by Gardiners. Hardly anyone other than a masochist uses a Vikan as they're so heavy. I'd just buy a brush a give it a go but you need to get the right fitting for the pole so maybe phone and ask before buying.

With Gardiners stuff, the only place to buy them from is direct from Gardiners.

I would buy the pump from ebay as it'll be much cheaper and probably the same pump anyway.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-Self-Priming-80PSI-High-Pressure-Diaphragm-Water-Pump-For-Sink-Taps-Shower-/110932731909?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item19d41b2805

[Mick Kent]

Before anyone says it, i work from a car with a trolley and barrels 

[buzzing]

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35ft will do most 2nd floor places maybe even the 3rd. 28ft will do all 1st floor and sometimes the 2nd. The vast majority of my work I do with a 28ft pole.

The longer the pole, the longer it's closed length. Which an ionics pole, the sections separate dead easy. I don't know about other makes.

As for the brush, it's personal choice. I use an Unger brush. Others on here swear by Gardiners. Hardly anyone other than a masochist uses a Vikan as they're so heavy. I'd just buy a brush a give it a go but you need to get the right fitting for the pole so maybe phone and ask before buying.

With Gardiners stuff, the only place to buy them from is direct from Gardiners.

I would buy the pump from ebay as it'll be much cheaper and probably the same pump anyway.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-Self-Priming-80PSI-High-Pressure-Diaphragm-Water-Pump-For-Sink-Taps-Shower-/110932731909?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item19d41b2805
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U mean get the backpack without the pump

or this one with the pump?-  

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/big-boy-backpack.html

Also, worth getting a DI canistor?

[buzzing]

Think I will go for the micro trolley.  Seems better than the backpack.  And will have a better pump and battery and could add a DI canistor if wanted.

[gary999]

Your money to waste.

[paul13]

Your money to waste.

The micro trolley Isn't a waste of money IMO this will last
many years more than a backpack on a trolley.

[gary999]

Not going to argue the toss....but really!!!

ive had my  ws  packs over four years.

The pack cost me less than £100,i have replaced the pump once
which is a 70psi pump like the micro trolleys cost less than £25
and battery once a year less than £20.

I use my pack around 5 hours a day

Incidently I don't use a trolley for it,i pick up put down as required.

not only has it been cheaper even full it is lighter than using a trolley
with a 25 litre barrel on it and far quicker and easier to move about.

ive had a freedom trolley and used a pack from a car,it is easier
with a pack and the chap is part time weekends only and doesn't know
if this will become a fulltime occupation.

So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.

[Jonny 87]

Not going to argue the toss....but really!!!

So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.

But you are a WFP window cleaner that only uses tap water.

So that makes your opinions null and void........

























Just teasin

 

[gary999]

 

[Plankton]

I've got 2 gardiner back packs, 1 DIY pump box with varistream  and 1 pump with an analog controller on a board. Previously had someone working for me so wanted a spare for each person. Now I'll use one back pack for spraying TFR and fungicidal washes and the other will be used when tank is refilling. The pump box was previously being used on a barra with a 25L container but haven't worked this way for a while as air locks were frequent and time consuming. After carrying the backpack yesterday I'm thinking of using it more often as it'll reduce the amount frustration from the hose snagging.

[paul13]

Not going to argue the toss....but really!!!

ive had my  ws  packs over four years.

The pack cost me less than £100,i have replaced the pump once
which is a 70psi pump like the micro trolleys cost less than £25
and battery once a year less than £20.

I use my pack around 5 hours a day

Incidently I don't use a trolley for it,i pick up put down as required.

not only has it been cheaper even full it is lighter than using a trolley
with a 25 litre barrel on it and far quicker and easier to move about.

ive had a freedom trolley and used a pack from a car,it is easier
with a pack and the chap is part time weekends only and doesn't know
if this will become a fulltime occupation.

So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.

Agree with what you have said but I'm assuming you haven't used the micro
trolley ?

I've used the trolley and have used backpacks for many years and
the m/t is great value from a point it will last far longer than a backpack
I have many backpacks with wholes cracks ect you would need a very
heavy hammer to damage the m/t.

The m/t is micro seriously very light not like any other trolley as i said
weight has to be about same as a backpack and you will have 25l barrels
anyway for water but instead of pouring into backpack you just sit barrel in
place and instead of 18l water you have 25l quicker with less effort.

you can also attach di vessel for on the move and the pole holder is great.

So for the extra money IMO it has to be the micro trolley in this situation.
 

[buzzing]

I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car.  The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you!  By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?

[Plankton]

Where are these micro trolleys, I only found a Majorca window cleaners website saying "from the makers of aqua tap"
Are you referring to the trolley from Daqua, which ways a tonne

[paul13]

I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car.  The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you!  By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-New-25L-25-Litre-Plastic-Water-Containers-Carrier-Drum-Gerrycan-Jerri-Bottle-/351158096845?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Bird_Bath_Feeder_CV&hash=item51c2a753cd

You will probably get cheaper if you do a search.
Try your local car wash they will usually give you them or sell you them cheap just
need to wash them out.

[gary999]

I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car.  The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you!  By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?

Get your barrels from a car wash,they will either give them away or charge
you pennies.

just give them a good rinse out.