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Mobile Speed Cameras
« on: April 03, 2006, 07:58:14 pm »


Has anyone been nabbed by one recently. I was had in January and the letter duly came a couple of weeks later, saying i was doing 40mph in a 30mph zone. I disagree with this of course, as it was on a gradiant and just off a roundabout.

I wrote to them asking for the photographic evidence and two photos were sent back to me. The first shows my van and the background, and the second is just a close up of the van showing no background. My arguement will be when i go to court is that how can i physically disprove their claim by measuring the distance as the second picture doesn't show any background.

Also their laser equipment had been used for 10 months since being calibrated and was due to be calibrated again in two months time. If the police can absolutely state that their equipment is accurate all the time, why bother to have them calibrated at all >:(

Having worked with laser monitoring equipment in the cable industry i can tell you that the are not accurate all the time, and i know of a speed indicator sign that informs me of travelling at 50mph when in fact i am doing 40mph. Maybe because my van has a sloping front, it gives an adverse reading or even road vibration.

If anybody runs into this sort of problem, there is a website called pepipoo that gives you all the legal advice for free. In one year the safety camera partnership pulled in 121 millon pounds in fines. Don't get me wrong, if they are parked outside a school and catch speeding cars, good, but they always seem to pick on easy targets not the speeding youths. As i only have 3 points already, i am not worried about an additional 3 or the fine, it's just a matter of principle.

Any thoughts on this or you have been caught out? 

Dave

Bob Robertson

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 08:25:25 pm »
Check this out. You might find some help here.

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/badsigns.html


tihson

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2006, 08:43:34 pm »
Thank's for that. I have had a quick look and it looks good. Somebody told me to
hang a cd in the windscreen to deflect the cameras beam, and there must be something in this as i have seen an articulated lorry with a line of them in the windscreen.

Dave

Lavinia

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2006, 08:51:55 pm »
 :'( I have a Citroen Dispatch van and was court doing 66 in a 60 zone, because my van is over a one ton pay load I was only able to go 50 mph. This is not told to us when we buy our vans and I was just driving at the same speed as the rest of the traffic. Very unfair I thought £60 fine 3 points, o well 6 more points and i win a month off work. :)

CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2006, 08:55:04 pm »
Watched Myth Busters on Discovery and the tried most of the tricks to try to fool the cameras and no none of the work not even the cds


Cheers Goron

Ps. simplest way around it is to not speed in the first place!

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2006, 09:11:48 pm »
xxxx
I was waiting for a reply like this. The trouble is there are too many self richeous people out there and you are one of them with a post script telling me not to speed in the first place.

For your information, there was a tv experiment carried out by motorway police officers, and it was found near impossible to keep to a required speed constantly. Don't get me wrong, if they were sited in places where there is danger to children and old people, fair enough, but they are not, because the police know full well there is revenue to be had and very easily.

And if you read my post properly, i have stated that i was not travelling at 40mph as was stated by them.

Dave

craigp

Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2006, 09:22:33 pm »
some years ago the goverment asked DETR  or is it DTER? any way, to answer the question 'what causes road accidents?'  they investigated many road accidients and determined excessive speed acounted for 6.7% the main cause being distracted attention.

funny the results seemed to be kept low profile.

excessive speed will only really make accidents worse, rarely cause them.

though you could say if nothing moved nothing would happen.

CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2006, 09:25:53 pm »
Keep your hair on Di.. sorry Dave

I am the first to admit that i do not always stick to the speed limit. All i said was that if you don't want to be caught by the traps for whatever reason they are there don't sppeed that is the only true method not to get caught by them.

Anyway enjoy your fine and your increased insurance due to your points Di..


Cheers Goron

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2006, 09:32:25 pm »

Goron

Bol---ks

And in any case i will fight it.

Dave

CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2006, 09:41:36 pm »

Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? only i have not come across your name before

Dave



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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2006, 09:47:27 pm »

Sorry, i should have been a little clearer with my question. What i meant to say was where does the name Goron originate from


Spot On cleaning

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2006, 09:55:15 pm »

Thankyou. I thought you were a foreigner

Jason Hedges

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2006, 11:18:55 pm »
Hi Dave,

Karpet Knights has a point, but everyone breaks the speed limit from time to time, even my mum had a speeding ticket recently after 40 years of driving as slow as a snail!

If you think you have a case then go for it!

If not, take the points and the fine, my insurance company (norwich union) wasn't bothered by my 9 points when I first went with them. And now they have all gone my insurance premium still creeps up every year!

Sometimes its not worth the hastle fighting these things, just added stress to an already stressfull life!

Good luck if you persue........

Kind regards,
Jason.

Jason Hedges

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2006, 11:20:08 pm »
Sorry Carpet knights,

Spelt your name wrong!

Kind regards,
Jason.

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2006, 11:26:56 pm »
Thanks Jason,

I see you have a Vauxhall Vivaro. What do you think of them?  I have a 3 year old long wheel base with a truck mount in it. A great van but too small for me really.

Dave

Jason Hedges

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Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2006, 11:31:23 pm »
Hi Dave,

I'd love a long wheel base vivaro with a truckmount!

Instead I have a short wheelbase with 2 portables in it!

I love my van, it has been 100% reliable so far (touch wood) and driving it is a real pleasure.

If your van has been a nightmare I'll swap any day  ;D!

Kind regards,
Jason.

stains-away

Re: Mobile Speed Cameras
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2006, 11:32:30 pm »
Any non car derived van is restricted to 10 mph below the stated speed limit, ie;70mph zone=60 mph except in 30mph limits,it should be made clear at the time of purchase or, even easier, why dont manufacturers/dealers put a sticker on the dash?
A friend of mine used to own an ex military transit, painted in radar absorbant olive drab paint, the look on the polices faces when he used to drive past them when they were using the hand held speed guns was priceless,but thenso was the look on his face when the first gatso arrived in the area!!