[Cliff perkins]

hi all
im trying to get an idea as to what pay staff,i am thinking about taking on somebody to help out.
would it be wise to keep him with me and knock out as much as we can together or train him buy him a little van and send him out alone.
is it best to pay him set amount each week or put him on the payrol.

any info warmly welcome.

regards cliff

[g.brookes]

I would recommend get them out in the van with you.  I found I really enjoy the company and actually get bored working on my own now!  After 6 months or so i think you get a good idea as to whether they're gonna stick it and whether you can trust them to work on their own.
One van one van is definitely more profitable but when you think about the costs of buying and running an extra van, and putting a whole new set up in there the advantages are shortened somewhat.  obviously if expansion is your aim then you have to do it, but if you don't ever want more than one employee than i would suggest just stick to one van.
Similarly, although this is just an assumption, staff are more likely to get fed up and leave if they just work on their own every day and window cleaning can be extremely boring when its not your own business.

[Cliff perkins]

thanks
any idea on price to pay if i have somebody with me full time ?
regards

[Cliff perkins]

are people to shy to say what they pay the staff they have,or maybe dont wanna come accross as a tight fisted old git and get slated.

ok i was thinking £60 a day is that enough?
do i put them on the books for that amount ?

regards

[PoleKing]

are people to shy to say what they pay the staff they have,or maybe dont wanna come accross as a tight fisted old git and get slated.

ok i was thinking £60 a day is that enough?
do i put them on the books for that amount ?

regards

I pay my subbys between £130 and £150 a day now.
Employed would be around £90 I'd think. (Though I'm not going down that route)
People need more than the minimum wage to make a living.

[Cliff perkins]

Thanks poleking

I asked another windie and he pays his worker £50 a day.

I think £130 is to much money i didnt even earn that driving low loaders mate.

[Cliff perkins]

8 hours at £7 an hour is £64 .

[Clever Forum Name]

8 hours at £7 an hour is £64 .

Lots of guys on here pay £10 an hour on the books.

A couple of chaps i know do £350 - £400 a week employed (with ya holidays etc)

Off the books (not recommended) £50 a day, cash in hand. Not worth the risk imo

[8weekly]

My thought was £90-£100 a day for an adult good worker. There could be a bonus element in that though. My view is that if you want a proper business with solid employees you need to pay a good wage. I would expect a guy on his own to be producing £300 so £100 a day is a fair wage. Obviously it would be much less working with you in a van, so pay less to start perhaps?

But if you just want a young helper Cliff, perhaps £60-£70 a day. I think it depends where you plan to go.

[Paul Coleman]

8 hours at £7 an hour is £64 .

..and a calculator may be a tax deductible expense.

[Ian101]

May I suggest min wage PLUS a daily turnover bonus which is paid monthly linked to attendance, time keeping and no complaints.

7 hours @ £6.20 £44 plus say 10% of £250 = £69 a day or 15% = £82 a day in total

Advantage of this scenario to you the employer is if you have a guaranteed hour amount in contract then if your snowed off for 3 weeks your only paying min wage out plus if they've had a good month and were thinking of skiving a day off with 19 days of £25 / £38 resting on their attendance they may want to think about it.

[Clever Forum Name]

8 hours at £7 an hour is £64 .

..and a calculator may be a tax deductible expense.

LMFAO - Wonder what the OP's book are like.

"Yes record week this week, £5,795"

 

[Cliff perkins]

Pahaha
Yes i had just woken up and i work out 8£ an hour lol
Bargain who wants it ;-)

[Cliff perkins]

Ok how about £70 a day with me for 2 months while i train him.
Then £100 on in own in a van.?

[Ian101]

Ok how about £70 a day with me for 2 months while i train him.
Then £100 on in own in a van.?

Bob plumb wants to know when he can start

[bobplum]

aahhh the days of being paid a wage

[PoleKing]

Thanks poleking

I asked another windie and he pays his worker £50 a day.

I think £130 is to much money i didnt even earn that driving low loaders mate.

No worries.
I think I pay well but I expect a lot.
The lads I have are top class.
I make a good chunk from them.
We're all happy.

[Cliff perkins]

i understand to pay well poleking

but for 130 a day how much do you expect the lad to earn you a day,theres only so much a man can earn in a day.

regards

[supernova77]

I have someone with me on an ad-hoc self employed basis (as he also works for another window cleaner a few days a month)...

I pay £78 a day.

8am / 8:30am - 4pm / 5pm.

Andy

[PoleKing]

i understand to pay well poleking

but for 130 a day how much do you expect the lad to earn you a day,theres only so much a man can earn in a day.

regards

I look for them to make at least £300.
I don't sub very much, but when I do, I make it worth my while.
(I only sub commercial ATM, actually start my first domestic sub day on Monday) but apprehensive if I'm honest.
It's that or chuck the work...