[Darren cockerill]

Just going on the 5 quotes I have had from different companies ,had a quote of £6k of a company called jet but that was cold water , just out of interest what companies do them a lot cheaper as I am incorrect

[Stephen Fox]

Awesome to see the amount of interest in the new Phoenix Van mounts. The great thing about CIU is the amount of haters/negative posters who attempt to rubbish products before they even see them in the flesh. Are these the same guys who rubbished water fed poles before they became a main stay in their business? People hate change...

Its interesting to see all the wasted physics/engineering talent that pops up with comments. For all those basing the system on our promo video, please be aware it's just that  - a promo video. Also, you haven't actually watched it all and taken in the whole system as a working unit. Doing so may answer your questions, better still, seeing the completed version would be even clearer

[Pete Thompson]

Awesome to see the amount of interest in the new Phoenix Van mounts

Really? you think it's awesome that nobody has a good word to say about them so far?  Lol, ok.

lease be aware it's just that  - a promo video. Also, you haven't actually watched it all and taken in the whole system as a working unit

Cool ok, its just a promo. Phew!  You had us thinking it was completely rubbish there for a moment.

In that case, tell us - what is the baffling? is it just those teeny weeny totally inadequate noodle holes?

And as for the top-heavy-top-chunk-with-no-support, that is not how the final version is, is it?

[Stephen Fox]

Pete, like I said, why are you wastiing your time on window cleaning forums when you obviously have engineering and design talents not bring exploited!!!??

A little homework for you. I think you need to look at the video as a whole and see if you can answer your own questions.

I'll make a note that you think 'it's rubbish' I'm sure what you have is a lot better. I can only hope we or someone else can reach a point where you acknowledge 'that's not bad.'

[PoleKing]

Pete, like I said, why are you wastiing your time on window cleaning forums when you obviously have engineering and design talents not bring exploited!!!??

A little homework for you. I think you need to look at the video as a whole and see if you can answer your own questions.

I'll make a note that you think 'it's rubbish' I'm sure what you have is a lot better. I can only hope we or someone else can reach a point where you acknowledge 'that's not bad.'

An amusing post Steven but perhaps not the most professional.
Ask yourself the question: 'would Alex have replied in the same way?'

[Stephen Fox]

Probably not poleking, not sure what everyone obsession with being professional is. If you can't have a bit of fun with the haters, now and again, what can you have!

[mick hay]

....... and out of your pole comes pure water. Same as a £500 setup.

+1

[Don Kee]

Not everyone will get that you're 'messing about mate' (that is if you're not backtracking....?)
Therefore the thought process would go along the lines of, 'do i want to deal with a customer services rep/sales rep if they are going to come across like mr fox...?'

You are head salesman right?so people can only assume that you lead by example and they're all like you...?


(Not a dig before you rant on, just pointing out why professionalism maybe important)

[Stephen Fox]

Don, good point.

[dd]

Mr Fox

Care to comment on why the tank is so top heavy, to me it looks very unstable in a collision (no degree in engineering required to surmise this). Surely a cube shaped tank would have been a better design, personally I am not a fan of flat tanks but yours simply looks wrong.

[PoleKing]

Probably not poleking, not sure what everyone obsession with being professional is. If you can't have a bit of fun with the haters, now and again, what can you have!

Between cleaners, I'm all for banter.
But I think a supplier should be above that IMO. (I'm not digging at you, just an opinion)
Lads on here are suppliers' customers and it's difficult to ascertain intonation properly sometimes in text.
With that particular tank, people don't seem impressed so far.
To me, that was your perfect opening to really sell it.
Just my 2 bobs worth.

[Soupy]

Probably not poleking, not sure what everyone obsession with being professional is. If you can't have a bit of fun with the haters, now and again, what can you have!

Between cleaners, I'm all for banter.
But I think a supplier should be above that IMO. (I'm not digging at you, just an opinion)
Lads on here are suppliers' customers and it's difficult to ascertain intonation properly sometimes in text.
With that particular tank, people don't seem impressed so far.
To me, that was your perfect opening to really sell it.
Just my 2 bobs worth.

Unfortunately I find myself agreeing with polequeen. This is getting to be a habit. I should get out more.

This forum is just silliness for us window lickers (most of us anyway - some appear to have had a humorectomy). I often insult other posters, I actively tell them how useless they are and how they should probably look for a career in say, lumberjacking. What difference is that going to make to me and my business? None. If however 99% of posters on here were my potential customers (each with a potential of £100s or even £1000s), I think my approach would be very different.

[Soupy]

My two cents on the system:

Looks cracking to me. Very sleek.

I couldn't comment on the practicality of the design because, as pointed out by Mr Fox, it's a 2d scaled video with limited information.
As for functionality, I'd need to operate it first.

[Stephen Fox]

Mr Fox

Care to comment on why the tank is so top heavy, to me it looks very unstable in a collision (no degree in engineering required to surmise this). Surely a cube shaped tank would have been a better design, personally I am not a fan of flat tanks but yours simply looks wrong.

dd,

There will be more info towards official release date. As said previous, I wouldn't base the system of one still taken from a video -  the 'strange' shape tank is one part of a whole - it needs to be looked at as a complete unit. If you see it like, that you can see that it is not top heavy but a solid unit. There are also components not featured on the video that are in the real life version.