[edward1]

 
one of my colleagues has just bought the facelift 30 which looks great .


im used to gardiner poles ,but the facelift sections are a lot thinner and the pole seems lighter ?

what do you guys thinkl

[Soupy]

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=175046.0

[Soupy]

Both make good, quality poles.

[edward1]

thx soupy
old ground I c

[Soupy]

Not really. Poles are changing all the time. It's not a fixed point of reference. Other poles are available now that weren't last year.

[edward1]

ok,
how do the sections compare ,r the facelift thinner lighter?

[Don Kee]

Its quite a pro facelift forum mate so i dont think you'll get a fair opinion mate, gardiner do make the odd good poles as well 

[Soupy]

Not sure the thickness is particularly different to be honest. Neither pole feels flimsy. The clamps on the Gardiner poles divide opinion on here but in my opinion they will increase the useable life of the pole. More movement in the clamp = longer life.

[Lee GLS]

From what I have read on various forums and Facebook the poles are good and people love the clamps, but they do wear out very quickly, in some cases the clamps are completely worn out and sections spin in under a year if use

[Stephen Fox]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

[wightsurf]

What is the update clamp? As this might help my brother, cheers

[Lee GLS]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

I dont think spinning pole sections after 7-8 months is the norm though!! My previous pole lasted at least 18  months before spinning!!

[ben M]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

lol

[Stephen Fox]

What is the update clamp? As this might help my brother, cheers

wightsurf, if you can send me his details we can sort him out.

fox@faceliftcleaning.com

[Stephen Fox]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

I dont think spinning pole sections after 7-8 months is the norm though!! My previous pole lasted at least 18  months before spinning!!

I remember certain a makes poles spinning within 3 months and comments posted on this forum...

[ben M]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

I dont think spinning pole sections after 7-8 months is the norm though!! My previous pole lasted at least 18  months before spinning!!

I remember certain a makes poles spinning within 3 months and comments posted on this forum...

maybe but not anymore, what about your poles? 

[8weekly]

Lee, I think you have a short memory, spinning pole sections has been the norm for some pole manufactures for years and amazingly their customers have put up with it.

Any early Phoenix customers with issues have been replaced with updated clamps and are now operating like new with the fastest and easiest to use pole out there. 

I dont think spinning pole sections after 7-8 months is the norm though!! My previous pole lasted at least 18  months before spinning!!

I remember certain a makes poles spinning within 3 months and comments posted on this forum...

maybe but not anymore, what about your poles? 

Stephen is right though. Xtel poles were worse than Gardiner's but the clamps never lasted long. Gardiner's do seem to have addressed it though.

[wightsurf]

What is the update clamp? As this might help my brother, cheers

wightsurf, if you can send me his details we can sort him out.

fox@faceliftcleaning.com

Email sent, thanks

[J.D]

The new facelift pole is a nice pole but still nothing touches the slx, in my humble opinion

[ben M]

The new facelift pole is a nice pole but still nothing touches the slx, in my humble opinion

what about aqua dapter,any good?