[herbiefatboy]

hi all can anyone tell me what size tank you can fit in one of these vans thanks/.

[cgh window cleaning]

I think x line systems installed a 350ltr tank in one.
There was a video on there site or on youtube,looked very neat and tidy for a small van.

[herbiefatboy]

thanks for the reply

[Simon Mess]

Yes, a 350l system will fit weight wise, but only just. On another forum, a guy had one set up for 2 men, but after i expressed concern about the gvw, he went on a weighbridge. Found that he could not legally carry the 2nd man

[easy clean]

I'm in the process of fitting out 2 nemos, which are the same as the bipper. I'm putting a 500 tank in both. They are single man vans and all the carry is tank, hose reel and poles. Yes admittedly it will be maxed out at the start of every day and then get lighter but that's the exact reason why I have chosen to lease the vehicles for the amount of strain on them over 3 years. Just to let you know when I borrowed one for a couple of days we squeezed a 650 tank in and filled it up. It never looked like it was overloaded although it was and it pulled very well for a 1.3. Must say was impressed with the torque of the engine.

[AuRavelling79]

I'm in the process of fitting out 2 nemos, which are the same as the bipper. I'm putting a 500 tank in both. They are single man vans and all the carry is tank, hose reel and poles. Yes admittedly it will be maxed out at the start of every day and then get lighter but that's the exact reason why I have chosen to lease the vehicles for the amount of strain on them over 3 years. Just to let you know when I borrowed one for a couple of days we squeezed a 650 tank in and filled it up. It never looked like it was overloaded although it was and it pulled very well for a 1.3. Must say was impressed with the torque of the engine.

Unwise ...

[Afterglow Window Cleaners]

I'm in the process of fitting out 2 nemos, which are the same as the bipper. I'm putting a 500 tank in both. They are single man vans and all the carry is tank, hose reel and poles. Yes admittedly it will be maxed out at the start of every day and then get lighter but that's the exact reason why I have chosen to lease the vehicles for the amount of strain on them over 3 years. Just to let you know when I borrowed one for a couple of days we squeezed a 650 tank in and filled it up. It never looked like it was overloaded although it was and it pulled very well for a 1.3. Must say was impressed with the torque of the engine.

Isn't the max payload 610kg on these? so weight of water (500kg) and fuel at full (45kg) leaves only 65kg for driver and equipment, accident waiting to happen

[alfie11]

some are only 610

[Afterglow Window Cleaners]

some are only 610

Yeah, I just read that and modified my post

[easy clean]

The new ones are all 660 payload

[easy clean]

I've been running vans for 8 years on their payloads first thing every morning. What's the problem? These van get given a payload and are designed accordingly. So running it carrying a weight it's been designed to carry, where's the issue? It's ok I don't expect any answer as there isn't one!

[Pete Thompson]

Nice little vans, I like them and they are cheap.

Not much room for poles though.

Easy to park though

[Simon Mess]

I've been running vans for 8 years on their payloads first thing every morning. What's the problem? These van get given a payload and are designed accordingly. So running it carrying a weight it's been designed to carry, where's the issue? It's ok I don't expect any answer as there isn't one!

The answer boils down to how manufacturers come to their 'quoted payload'. Which in the case of small vans anyway, simply means the gvw minus the dry weight of the van. No fluids etc, in fact going by my weighbridge encounter, i am not even sure there it takes into account things like interior trim and seats!. If you get stopped by vosa, i am not sure how you might fare by using the argument that the brochure says whatever kg's, and i am carrying less. In theory you might get away with that, but only once. It is your responsibility to ensure you are not exceeding your van's gvw, and therefore, the limitations on brakes, suspension, bearings, clutch life etc.

I went over a customers weighbridge with a full 500l tank in my van with (900kg payload) and was 40kg under the gvw (and no, i don't carry heaps of other stuff), so you will have to excuse my skepticism on the matter!.

But unless you have been over a weighbridge with a full tank of water, and the van set up as you would for working, you just don't know if you are breaking the law.

Easy clean, go on a weighbridge with your full 500l tanks, and find out what the weight is. If the vans are overweight, and i strongly suspect they are, then that means you are expecting your employees break the law and put their licenses at risk at the start of the day. 

[robertphil]

they look like the track distance is too small to give you a comfy pleasant ride,in the long term.   

[Jonny 87]

I'm in the process of fitting out 2 nemos, which are the same as the bipper. I'm putting a 500 tank in both. They are single man vans and all the carry is tank, hose reel and poles. Yes admittedly it will be maxed out at the start of every day and then get lighter but that's the exact reason why I have chosen to lease the vehicles for the amount of strain on them over 3 years. Just to let you know when I borrowed one for a couple of days we squeezed a 650 tank in and filled it up. It never looked like it was overloaded although it was and it pulled very well for a 1.3. Must say was impressed with the torque of the engine.

Wow really?

Your tank itself weighs 50 kgs so 550kg total when full. That leaves you with just about 100 kilos. Your going to be about 200 kilos overweight at the start of every day.

[easy clean]

It's not overweight I've put exactly what is going in there but using s 650 tank with just under 500 litres of water and took it to the weigh bridge and its bang on its limit. The way dale tanks weigh more than a made to measure tank as well. Now is there a problem anybody?

[Jonny 87]

So your saying with a vehicle with a 660 kg payload you aren't overweight carrying 500 kilos of pure?

[Frankybadboy]

It's not overweight I've put exactly what is going in there but using s 650 tank with just under 500 litres of water and took it to the weigh bridge and its bang on its limit. The way dale tanks weigh more than a made to measure tank as well. Now is there a problem anybody?

if you took it to the weigh bridge and its bang on its limit what was it,you should had a print out of the weight?

also just cause your on the weight limit doesn't mean that your ok on your axle weight.

vosa see over weight and axle weights as to separate offences so be wear

if you do get pulled over then they will take a very dim view and you will be done on the spot there and then.

[Frankybadboy]

I'm in the process of fitting out 2 nemos, which are the same as the bipper. I'm putting a 500 tank in both. They are single man vans and all the carry is tank, hose reel and poles. Yes admittedly it will be maxed out at the start of every day and then get lighter but that's the exact reason why I have chosen to lease the vehicles for the amount of strain on them over 3 years. Just to let you know when I borrowed one for a couple of days we squeezed a 650 tank in and filled it up. It never looked like it was overloaded although it was and it pulled very well for a 1.3. Must say was impressed with the torque of the engine.

so you don't fit a tank ? that be extra weight , a frame weighs extra, but course with what your saying your probably just strapping it in

so you don't use a second battery?

full tank of fuel ?


and because it looks ok to that will be a good defence for you when in court.

best of luck to you 

[easy clean]

This forum really makes me laugh, because a company crash test a vehicle you all jump on the band wagon and think your all engineers and want to say this and that won't work and you can't do this. Well let me tell you something it's a made to measure tank at just less than 500, that weighs less than a wydale, its in a frame, it has all the equipment in the vehicle to do the job, I only run vehicles as single operators and its on its max payload. What's wrong with that?

I didn't just think oh a nemo will do I have looked into it and tried it all before I got them! Like before when I was running t220 connects with 650 tanks.

My vehicles go to the weigh bridge and get weighed, recorded and the certificate goes into the van. I've been doing this long enough and have enough staff to know what I'm doing by know.