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johnowhetton

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Help with cleaning altro flooring
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:24:59 pm »
Hi Guys,
           I have come across a beige coloured altro safety floor. It has been down approx. 8 years in a busy café. I have tried cleaning it using red, green & black pads on a rotary machine with a high alkaline floor cleaner. Whilst a lot of dirt has been removed off the floor and it looks a hell of a lot cleaner we are still left with dark areas along the traffic routes. Is this just down to wear of the floor?? or is there something else we can try to remove this. Also the tables and chairs are metal and over the years they have left rust marks on the floor, ive tried using a rust removing chemical (Prochems one), the rust has faded somewhat but still they remain. Is there anything else we can try to remove these or have they literally penetrated in to the flooring.

Please see pictures.


Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
John

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 10:29:41 pm »

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 10:34:34 pm »
pics

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 10:35:49 pm »
[img width=749 height=1000]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1398116098_floor3.jpg

Neil Jones

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2014, 08:26:23 am »
In my experience Altro Floors show wear a lot after cleaning, I always qualify this with the customer. They show it more so than when it's dirty.

Saying that, I've had good results with altro floors, I do a lot of wet rooms and kitchens with them in.

What chemical did you use?

Neil Jones

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 08:27:49 am »
Just to add, I used All for Stone and Aqua Mix HD and I prefer a brush on these floors as they have a textured surface and I think brushes work better at getting into the gaps than pads.

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 09:08:27 am »
I used a product called dynax from a local supplier. I've had fantastic results with this in the past, this is the first altro floor I've done that looks like this. I have also tried a scrubber dryer with brushes and truvox multiwash on this floor, neither seems to be able to bring it up any better.

B Bailey

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 12:46:03 pm »
Don't think you will do any better than that.
Like Neil I always use brushes on Altro, but traffic lanes once worn will not look like new.

Kev Martin

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 02:05:05 pm »
Try adding honing powder 400 or 800 grit to the mix

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Neil Jones

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 07:59:57 pm »
Kev makes a good point, something he told me and I forgot to say. Using honing powder makes a big difference.

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 10:58:18 pm »
I know nothing about honing. Where can I get that from? Kev when is your next course

Kev Martin

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 10:33:56 am »
I know nothing about honing. Where can I get that from? Kev when is your next course

You can get honing powder from me.  You need to register for the next course by sending me an e mail or ringing the office on 0121 773 2450

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 11:29:00 am »
Hi John,

If you click on the below link you will see the safest and most effective method for cleaning safety floors. If you have any questions just drop me an email on info@jskcleaning.ie with your number and I will give you a call.

Deep Cleaning of an Anti Slip Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUnslNGWAo

Tadgh

Kev Martin

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 02:11:21 pm »
Hi John,

If you click on the below link you will see the safest and most effective method for cleaning safety floors. If you have any questions just drop me an email on info@jskcleaning.ie with your number and I will give you a call.

Deep Cleaning of an Anti Slip Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUnslNGWAo

Tadgh

Tadgh

I can see how the system you promote works and I admire it for being a little more Eco Friendly than what we use!  However that floor is not particularly dirty is it?  So perhaps you could just explain one thing to me?

When you have a large area to do lets say 500M2 for example which is filthy and there is no easy access to running water like a lot of jobs we work on!

1.  What happens when the little scrub pad gets filthy after a couple of M2?
2.  When you have finally scrubbed the 500M2 with that hand mop, your arms are dropping off and you are totally shattered how do you then rinse and extract?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 05:52:44 pm »
Hi Kevin

We also do the microcleaning pads in 16" diameter which can be used with a scrubber dryer and 16" diameter double sided microfiber floor pads to rinse the floor clean.

Kev Martin

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2014, 07:33:12 pm »
Hi Kevin

We also do the microcleaning pads in 16" diameter which can be used with a scrubber dryer and 16" diameter double sided microfiber floor pads to rinse the floor clean.

OK I get that but don't the microcleaning pads retain the dirt they clean off the floor?  You see I am actually very impressed with micro cleaning systems but every one I have tried fails when there are large areas involved because the ones I have tried become very quickly clogged up and then they need changing because you cannot just seem to rinse them or am I missing something?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2014, 11:29:26 pm »
I don't know Kevin Microcleaning pads work very well for us and have done for many years now, there are different densities available keep on trying until you find a suitable type.

johnowhetton

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2014, 07:49:36 am »
Got to say your video was pretty impressive

Kev Martin

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2014, 09:35:05 am »
I don't know Kevin Microcleaning pads work very well for us and have done for many years now, there are different densities available keep on trying until you find a suitable type.

Tadgh

That's my point I tried loads of them and then gave up.  I just went back to my tried and tested method of a soft to medium brush that gets into every nook and cranny on the floor, cleans really well no matter how dirty the floor is, it never clogs up and it's fast.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Help with cleaning altro flooring
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2014, 10:35:24 am »
The best I have found are the 3M Melamine pads for longevity.
All the others seem to last 20m2 and are done.
At £40 per pad for them they can be expensive but there are a couple of applications that their performance is unmatched.