[Geoff]

5 hours, £250 sounds right to me.

[Paul Coleman]

Although travel time and cost is a very real expense to us, a customer will rarely see i that way because the money is often made by working the round into areas and by grouping work - therefore making any travel cost for the day effectively shared amongst that day's customers.  However, even if it was virtually on your doorstep, it still sounds as if the rate is too low.   It seems as if this particular customer wants top quality at bottom price - i.e. cleaned by a company that is prepared to go bankrupt.  Top quality and bottom price doesn't work.  If the discussion warrants it, I am usually prepared make it clear to a customer that my higher than average price is matched by my better than average work quality; none of this marketing bull about being the best etc. because customers see through that anyway.

[Michael Peterson]

yeah im with ben on this one

[deeege]

I lost a care home to this crowd a year or so ago. It used to take us two 8 (man) hours to clean and was underpriced at £200. It was right on our doorstep though.

Their price? £80 and they travel over 150 miles to it. Now takes two lads 3 (man) hours.

The house manager is not too happy with the quality if service but it's out of her hands. These jobs will go full circle and end up back with local cleaners eventually.

[ben M]

I love this forum! 

Yep me too. All the rubbish is hilarious.  would "need" 250.

why rubbish? yes under £250 i won't do it but it is my choose,i can understand if someone want to do it cheaper.

[LT carpet cleaning]

I love this forum! 

Yep me too. All the rubbish is hilarious.  would "need" 250.

why rubbish? yes under £250 i won't do it but it is my choose,i can understand if someone want to do it cheaper.

True enough, and I confess I don't know you. But the usual comment about grasping big bucks comes from the skint crowd. Those who struggle with Walter Mitty syndrome

[Dave Willis]

Can't understand the logic?

Well the logic is that some half wits think that £50 an hour should be the going rate. The bigger companies who employ can send a guy out and pay him £7 an hour, charge the customer say £15 an hour and still turnover a profit from the comfort of their swing chair.

The laugh is that the guys spouting off their fabulous hourly rates of £50, £60 an hour and above are sat at home most of the time saving for their new van that they haven't got and ripping out their hot water systems because they can't afford the £10 a week gas. "I had a few £50 houses to do this morning" - brilliant!

That's why this forum is such a laugh I love it. 

[dazmond]

if it was 90 mins away i wouldnt take it on anyway.not worth it unless your earning £40-£50 an hour(including travel time).

i prefer local small businesses(nurseries,financial consultants,care homes etc)and posh domestics where its easy to earn £40-£60 an hour with very little travel time.

[Dave Willis]

There you go  

Do many £400+ days Dazmond?

[dazmond]

dave do you want to come out for the day with me?

yes i do earn £40-£60 an hour on some work.obviously not all day every day.the compact estate work is cheaper but im slowly creeping them up.

im also well established and work some very posh areas.

and what is wrong with saving up for a van instead of having monthly payments every month?

the heater was causing me problems but ive not ruled out installing it into my new van.

i dont earn a fortune as i work on my own but i do ok for a sole trader.

i can easily afford £50 a month on gas but why if cold does the same job(most of the time).

i spend big on poles but try and keep other costs to a minimum.

i also have my own flat,bills and another vehicle to run.i also like holidays,nice restaurants etc.

anyway i dont need to explain to you dave how i live my life and run my business.

im not a bullpoopter either.


regards


dazmond

[Clever Forum Name]

There you go  

Do many £400 days Dazmond?

People get confused with their average day vs their best day. I average about £467 a day, or was that my best day?! I cant remember now, either way i earn about £50 an hour or was that just one hour a day, i cant remember. Either way i don't earn less than £400 a day and work less than 6 hours! Hang on that's £66 per hour. I wouldn't do that job for less than £40 and it would take no more than 20 minutes, hang on that means i earn £120 an hour. That's my new average.

Not aimed at anyone, just the mindless dribble i have to listen to or read sometimes in the magical world of bull poop i mean window cleaning.

[Dave Willis]

Spot on.

[dazmond]

dave ive never earned £400 a day ever in 21 years of window cleaning.

my highest was £320 gutter clearing many years ago!

i do hit £250-£280 some days but they are not every day.

im always trying to improve my round but i only work (actually window cleaning)5 or 6 hours a day.

i get bored or tired after 3 or 4pm.most people would after 21 years of window cleaning!!

[Dave Willis]

So you don't actually earn £40 - £60 an hour then do you?

Dazmond wake up and smell the coffee.

[gary999]

I think old Dazmondo was saying he earnt £40 a hour on a certain type
of work not necessarily across an average day,week,month etc.

[dazmond]

this thread is about a price for a commercial job not run of the mill domestic!

i do price them higher.same for posh larger domestics and add on jobs.

i have a lot of experience and i know what im doing these days in regards to what i want for certain jobs.

dave seriously mate £40-£60 an hour is nothing special.its my aim and is achievable with the right work.

also even this (in your words unbelievable)is not what you take home.factoring all the other expenses of running a business its a lot lower.

will i be a millionaire?no never but i do try and improve my lot rather than having a dig at anyone who tries to raise their income and worth in this game.

[dazmond]

THIS IS PRICING A COMMERCIAL JOB!!

so dave do you price on time or amount of windows?

i price on time.so i price on the thought "i want £40-£60 an hour(or whatever) for certain jobs.

same for add ons.usually i price up £50-£60 an hour and achieve it most of the time these days.

eg. mrs smith wants her F/S/G cleaned on her 3 bed semi.i price it up at £50 or £60.i KNOW these jobs take around an hour(sometimes less)as ive done loads of em over the last few years.

obviously MY AVERAGE HOURLY RATE OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK IS A LOT LOWER but you have to price higher for jobs to still get a decent hourly rate over the course of the day/week/year.

[Dave Willis]

I can't be bothered to argue - off to work now but read what you have written again slowly from the beginning. You are deluded man.

[dazmond]

im certainly not "deluded" mate.i know what im doing through years of experience.

better get out there myself!

[Scrimble]

Big difference between turn over and profit many on here think there the same

Dave you are spot on,

If I took home 40 to 60per hour i think I would be doing better than a 500 quid van, a flat And a ford probe