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jacoo

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Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« on: March 23, 2014, 04:38:36 pm »
Hi
Looking for advice. I am starting my carpet cleaning business. Can`t make decision about machine.
 Alltec Express (brand new)
2 x Electro HD + SD motors
150 psi induction pump
3kw inline heater with 2 heat settings
2" hose barb
or
Airflex Pro/Turbo (used)
600 psi
double/triple vac.
Thanks in advance

john martin

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 05:03:13 pm »
Hi
Looking for advice. I am starting my carpet cleaning business. Can`t make decision about machine.
 Alltec Express (brand new)
2 x Electro HD + SD motors
150 psi induction pump
3kw inline heater with 2 heat settings
2" hose barb
or
Airflex Pro/Turbo (used)
600 psi
double/triple vac.
Thanks in advance


How much for each ?    

I would say the Express would be more usefull for the average job  , the onboard heat is a big advantage and anyone using that ' enforcer ' spec vac setup has said its powerful .  Im sure alltec would fit a 300 or 500 pump if you think u needed more pressure but the 150 is probably fine for most .

The turbo may have a slight advantage if u plan to use long hose runs ,  but then you may have to buy an external heater and being second hand the vacs or pump could die at any time .


Do you mean the  ' Elite ' ie the 12 gallon body ....  the Express is tiny compared to a turbo .

jacoo

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 05:32:43 pm »
Hi
Looking for advice. I am starting my carpet cleaning business. Can`t make decision about machine.
 Alltec Express (brand new)
2 x Electro HD + SD motors
150 psi induction pump
3kw inline heater with 2 heat settings
2" hose barb
or
Airflex Pro/Turbo (used)
600 psi
double/triple vac.
Thanks in advance


How much for each ?    

I would say the Express would be more usefull for the average job  , the onboard heat is a big advantage and anyone using that ' enforcer ' spec vac setup has said its powerful .  Im sure alltec would fit a 300 or 500 pump if you think u needed more pressure but the 150 is probably fine for most .

The turbo may have a slight advantage if u plan to use long hose runs ,  but then you may have to buy an external heater and being second hand the vacs or pump could die at any time .


Do you mean the  ' Elite ' ie the 12 gallon body ....  the Express is tiny compared to a turbo .

Hi John
Thanks for answer. How much? New Alltec without hoses and wand - 1350 +Vat. Airflex around 1600-1800 with hoses and wands. The think is I am new starter so not sure what will be best option for me. Yes, I am looking for machine for average job. I know Express has small tanks but is smaller and easier to lift on stairs etc...
I am not expecting any really big jobs at the moment,  probably 1-3 bedroom max...
thanks

john martin

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 05:40:34 pm »
1350+vat for that spec ?  That would be a giveaway !

If the elite is just a couple of hundred extra it might be worth having the extra tank capacity otherwise you may spend a lot of time emptying and filling on a whole house job or something like a hotel function room .

On the other hand you could bring the express upstairs easily ...

Its a hard one to call  .

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 05:42:15 pm »
150 psi induction pump. You'll probably only get a true 120ish max psi out of that, plus they don't last as ling as the higher psi pumps. I know as I had two machines with those pumps. Plus you'd get a better/quicker clean with a higher psi. Something around 200 - 250 psi is enough.

Since you have that extra power in extraction, you can opt for bigger jets on your wand, making even quicker cleaning.

The suction on the turbo is fantastic. It beat another top end porty, when independently tested using lab equipment in the suction department. It'll beat the express hands down on long hose runs, so I presume (I'm not an expert like john) it'll also beat it in short 25 feet hose runs. Can only make sense.

Like John said, price makes a difference. Also depends how used and abused the turbo is since its second hand. Make sure you have a good look at the machine inside and out before parting with cash. Also have a go at it, look out for any leaks.

Having said that, its an easy machine to work on if you need to change parts in the future.

Does the Airflex not come with any hose or wand?

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 05:46:06 pm »
That's quite steep for a second machine. Is it quite new not used that much?

Maybe worth going for the new machine in that case.


john martin

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Carpet Dawg

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2014, 05:57:27 pm »
but your getting quite a bit of extra kit there mate.

Two orion sprayer, they're about £90ish each new.
Two hand tools, again over £100 each (roughly)
air mover, £150+ new.
solutions, brushes, rake, extra hose.

I'd go for that. offer to end the auction early.

jacoo

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 06:06:09 pm »


quite a lot there for a start up ... i see your dilemma  lol
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but your getting quite a bit of extra kit there mate.

Two orion sprayer, they're about £90ish each new.
Two hand tools, again over £100 each (roughly)
air mover, £150+ new.
solutions, brushes, rake, extra hose.

I'd go for that. offer to end the auction early.
Yes, with sebo bs36 and sebo duo ready to go:)

Paul Evans

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2014, 06:35:40 pm »
Hi Jacoo.

Have you a link for the alltec. THink ill be having one at that price, maybe upgrade the pump though.
Easily run 50 foot of hose with that vacuum.

Paul

jacoo

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 06:38:18 pm »
Hi Jacoo.

Have you a link for the alltec. THink ill be having one at that price, maybe upgrade the pump though.
Easily run 50 foot of hose with that vacuum.

Paul
Hi Paul
I dont have a link, I have emailed Alltec and they responded with this price
thanks

Paul Evans

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 06:50:07 pm »
Jacoo

Hope im reading this right,
1 x hd electro + 1 x sd electro  5.7
3kw internal heater.
 £1350.

What is the 12 galloons in litres. around 20 litres
do you no the weight.
really interested. Is the through alltec or a second party.

Thanks Paul

jacoo

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 07:05:35 pm »
Jacoo

Hope im reading this right,
1 x hd electro + 1 x sd electro  5.7
3kw internal heater.
 £1350.

What is the 12 galloons in litres. around 20 litres
do you no the weight.
really interested. Is the through alltec or a second party.

Thanks Paul

Hi Paul
Yes 1350+Vat with above spec directly from Alltec. On their website it says:
Solution / Waste Capacity
22 Litre / 21 Litre
Size & Weight
800(H) x 660(L) x 390(W)  1 Vac 25Kg  2 Vac 28Kg
Weight with standard vac. Dont know how much witht upgraded vacs....
Regards

stuart_clark

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 07:21:41 pm »
I started with a Stimvack  Maestrow  ! A single 7inch vac and a 50 psi flojet pump , it came with 25ft of vacume hose, I did have another 25ft extention with solution pipe

rich123

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2014, 07:57:45 pm »
Hi
I own both those machines.
Both have their place, but if you're looking to pick one....
The Airflex. It's bigger and more powerful.
As others have said the Express is a great little machine.
But not much good for 4 bedroom houses as the water capacity
is too small. Nice compact (powerful) 2nd machine thou.

Rich

jacoo

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Re: Alltec Express vs Airflex Turbo
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2014, 11:04:12 am »
Thank you guys for your help ;)