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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2014, 09:57:52 am »
Well thanks for the offer and good luck with that. I'll stick to my overpriced supplier.
#FreeTheBrightonOne
#aliens

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2014, 10:25:16 am »
Are they g/f or carbon?
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

redstarwindowcleaners

  • Posts: 408
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2014, 10:29:33 am »
Are they g/f or carbon?

both are avaliable

carbon is where the savings are
prices go up and down slightly with the rate of the us doller exchange rate
but are much cheaper than what you pay in the uk
when importing if you do it yourself get the supplier to mark the customs form as gift / present
that way you avoid any duties
Stand before my gates and be judged

Perfect Windows

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 10:32:16 am »
I asked a few question on here regarding the imported chinease poles prior to Xmas and recieved both good contacts and information from the post
I think people's biggest draw back in buying direct is the
 Risk and hassle involved in the money transfer etc

have since managed to do a deal wiith a supplier
I'm going to import a initial quantity of poles and sell on at a vastly  lower cost than you will be able to buy in the uk
it will be a no frills sale literally pole for cash
the supplier is also offering a parts service as well in times than  need  clamps bolts and spare sections
the bottom line is you will get a decent pole at a vastly lower cost than you can get in the uk

any thoughts before I buy a few
Whst would be the most popular lengths etc

Good on you.  If it works you could end up sliding into equipment as a business; I'm sure that's how Gardiner's started.

One bit of advice - if you are buying on behalf of other people, do sort out some liability insurance as an absolute minimum.  No matter how friendly someone is, if they damage someone or something and the pole's at fault, they won't let their friendship get in the way of suing you.

Vin

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2014, 10:40:26 am »
Are they g/f or carbon?

both are avaliable

carbon is where the savings are
prices go up and down slightly with the rate of the us doller exchange rate
but are much cheaper than what you pay in the uk
when importing if you do it yourself get the supplier to mark the customs form as gift / present
that way you avoid any duties


Can you give prices please of the varying pole lengths for carbon. jhcscleaners@gmail.com

Thanks.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2014, 10:41:28 am »
If you like we could do some field testing for you.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Soupy

  • Posts: 21263
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2014, 10:43:09 am »
Get some insurance before you give him anything.

God knows he is king of the jobby jabbers.
#FreeTheBrightonOne
#aliens

G Griffin

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2014, 10:45:25 am »
Good luck,  GJ, but another difference is Stone Island is an established and respected brand.
If these poles are the same, fair enough. But I get the feeling you've missed the boat, Gardiners and the like were there before you. If you'd sourced a Gardiners pole abroad at those prices you're onto a winner.
You're selling a cashmere jumper, really, not a Stone Island cashmere jumper. It matters to some. And remember, China isn't Italy.
Again,  if you'd found a viable alternative to carbon fibre then you might be onto something.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Bill.upnw

  • Posts: 293
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2014, 10:54:03 am »
Ive already posted it on an old topic,

Email the supplier from alibaba,nhe will send u data sheets and sizes weight ect, they do carbon gutter poles cheap aswell.

nacc_richard@163.com

Bill.upnw

  • Posts: 293
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2014, 10:56:10 am »
Ive held one of these poles and i do aggree with what other people are saying, i would say a gardiner super light is going to be a hell of a lot better, but its a big difference in price isnt it,

redstarwindowcleaners

  • Posts: 408
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2014, 11:12:59 am »
Good luck,  GJ, but another difference is Stone Island is an established and respected brand.
If these poles are the same, fair enough. But I get the feeling you've missed the boat, Gardiners and the like were there before you. If you'd sourced a Gardiners pole abroad at those prices you're onto a winner.
You're selling a cashmere jumper, really, not a Stone Island cashmere jumper. It matters to some. And remember, China isn't Italy.
Again,  if you'd found a viable alternative to carbon fibre then you might be onto something.

agreed but it's not my intention to enter this as a business
I don't intend taking orders just buying a few say 31s or 45's selling to people I know and any surplus offer them on websites like these
And spares needed i can source these as well if needed sections clamps etc
me and a mate just brought 3 poles between us sharing the shipping costs etc  and have saved a fortune on similar poles if purchased in the uk
Saving are there but people don't want to take the risk or be bothered with the hassle so generally go with the flow in rip of Britain
l want another couple of poles myself  soon and a few friends are after a few as well
as said previously ill order a few more  than I need sell them on and everyone's a winner

Stand before my gates and be judged

redstarwindowcleaners

  • Posts: 408
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2014, 11:55:51 am »
Good luck,  GJ, but another difference is Stone Island is an established and respected brand.
If these poles are the same, fair enough. But I get the feeling you've missed the boat, Gardiners and the like were there before you. If you'd sourced a Gardiners pole abroad at those prices you're onto a winner.
You're selling a cashmere jumper, really, not a Stone Island cashmere jumper. It matters to some. And remember, China isn't Italy.
Again,  if you'd found a viable alternative to carbon fibre then you might be onto something.
it is similar prior to stone hitting the terraces it was all made in italy by sportswear
once popularity hit and the football boys went made for it the Italian factories could not keep up with demand  and sportswear shifted production to rumania and the subsequent lower production costs
and bigger margins sportswear even limited selling the stone island brand to registered dealers in a attempt to keep it exclusive but the Italians who were registered simply purchased  more and sold it on burning out the art  numbers so the items could not be traced back
everyones at it  all major companies use the cheaper production countries around the world to manufacture their goods but in the end  the quality is still the same

Stand before my gates and be judged

gleamtecwindows.

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2014, 01:24:30 pm »
don't forget to work out postage for n Ireland,  when up an running ,plenty of buyers over here would be interested

gary999

  • Posts: 8156
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2014, 01:38:48 pm »
Quote from: g j  newton
Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive

Of course you were cheaper. Where were your overheads? Rent, staff, management, insurance, taxes, light, heat, advertising, theft. Just some of the things a shop needs to account for that you didn't.

And...if someone rips a jumper-just get a new one.
What if a 50' pole snaps and lands through someone's skull?
Would you be questioned?
Would you be 100% positive that your pole couldn't be at fault?
I'd bet Alex @ Gardiner and Craig @ Ionic have tested their poles themselves to within an inch if their lives.

How much are yours?

Correct me if im wrong Dirty but didnt alex gardiner start out selling a diy
pole and bentley brushes,i cant imagine much testing went on with them ;D

Tom White

Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2014, 01:49:39 pm »
Arrogant, Soupy.
He's a Frenchie ain't he.
They're all arrogant. (Where's tosh to ban a racism post)

Slagging the French is not racism; it's tradition.

Crack on.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2014, 03:23:41 pm »

Correct me if im wrong Dirty but didnt alex gardiner start out selling a diy
pole and bentley brushes,i cant imagine much testing went on with them ;D

We actually got into the business by introducing Microbore hose to WFP nearly 12 years ago - starting supplying this hose and fittings locally and then decided 9 years ago to take the plunge with poles.

The first poles we sold were Universal Exel poles from Finland in our colour choice (which was bright green, later to be taken up by Unger) - Minimum batch order value was £22,000 which was quite a commitment for us. At the time these were well proven and tested poles. We coupled them with Vikan brushes and our first aluminium gooseneck.

In the quest for lightness and ease of use we moved on and the rest is history  :)

gary999

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2014, 03:41:40 pm »

Correct me if im wrong Dirty but didnt alex gardiner start out selling a diy
pole and bentley brushes,i cant imagine much testing went on with them ;D

We actually got into the business by introducing Microbore hose to WFP nearly 12 years ago - starting supplying this hose and fittings locally and then decided 9 years ago to take the plunge with poles.

The first poles we sold were Universal Exel poles from Finland in our colour choice (which was bright green, later to be taken up by Unger) - Minimum batch order value was £22,000 which was quite a commitment for us. At the time these were well proven and tested poles. We coupled them with Vikan brushes and our first aluminium gooseneck.

In the quest for lightness and ease of use we moved on and the rest is history  :)

I stand corrected ;D

Okay was the first carbon pole you sold a diy one with bentley brushes ;D

Alex Gardiner

  • Posts: 7744
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2014, 03:50:52 pm »
No. The first carbon poles we sold were the carbon and hybrid X-Tel poles with Vikan brushes.

We did then convert Maver fishing poles (following Jeff Brimble's posts on using fishing poles) into the Super-Lite 1. A few on the forum here bought the original trial versions and these were fitted with Bentley brushes as we could find no other off the shelf window cleaning brush that was light enough.

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2014, 03:54:22 pm »
No. The first carbon poles we sold were the carbon and hybrid X-Tel poles with Vikan brushes.

We did then convert Maver fishing poles (following Jeff Brimble's posts on using fishing poles) into the Super-Lite 1. A few on the forum here bought the original trial versions and these were fitted with Bentley brushes as we could find no other off the shelf window cleaning brush that was light enough.

Have you got a display cabinet with all the poles you have sold over the years or better still a pair of extremes mounted samurai sword style over your bed?

LMAO  ;D ;D ;D

PoleKing

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2014, 04:39:01 pm »

Correct me if im wrong Dirty but didnt alex gardiner start out selling a diy
pole and bentley brushes,i cant imagine much testing went on with them ;D

We actually got into the business by introducing Microbore hose to WFP nearly 12 years ago - starting supplying this hose and fittings locally and then decided 9 years ago to take the plunge with poles.

The first poles we sold were Universal Exel poles from Finland in our colour choice (which was bright green, later to be taken up by Unger) - Minimum batch order value was £22,000 which was quite a commitment for us. At the time these were well proven and tested poles. We coupled them with Vikan brushes and our first aluminium gooseneck.

In the quest for lightness and ease of use we moved on and the rest is history  :)

I stand corrected ;D

Okay was the first carbon pole you sold a diy one with bentley brushes ;D

Yeah Gaz. Shup and get back in the kitchen.  :-*
I don't really know their histories.
I've only been on here a couple of years.
But assumed due to their turnover they'd invest in a bit more R&D to cover their asses.
Alex seems to know his poles inside out.
Knowing that it's the same carbon as La Ferrari may just be a selling ploy but it's not the sort of thing you'd find out with a quick Google bomb. Chuck £50k at it and count the pennies rolling in.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.