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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2014, 09:20:12 am »
waste of time IMAO
IMAO?

In my Anglo Saxon opinion?

In my arrogant opinion?
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PoleKing

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2014, 09:22:23 am »
Well, stick your prices up.
See how many takers there are.
Then you'll know for certain if it's worth your while.
And-just to clarify-you're selling on a 'cash for poles' 'sold as seen' basis?
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PoleKing

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2014, 09:23:21 am »
waste of time IMAO
IMAO?

In my Anglo Saxon opinion?

In my arrogant opinion?

Arrogant, Soupy.
He's a Frenchie ain't he.
They're all arrogant. (Where's tosh to ban a racism post)
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2014, 09:23:33 am »
Quote from: g j  newton
that's  all a bit heavy
it's just a few poles being brought into the uk saving a few  windies a few quid

Bit heavy? Probably.

Sensible?
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concept

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2014, 09:23:50 am »
Yea for that I think you may need some product liability insurance.. wouldn't want to be sued. Overheads are starting to mount.

that's  all a bit heavy
it's just a few poles being brought into the uk saving a few  windies a few quid


I would suggest you re-think that.

Unless you are offering to co-ordinate some form of "group buy".

The moment you start retailing anything, whether you view it as retailing or not, your consumers have certain protections in place.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2014, 09:24:07 am »
So what happens if you snap a section?

It hurts my brain when people talk about prices of poles.

The extreme pole is what £400 plus vat. That's probably a weeks work for somebody with a terrible round.

When you use a pole everyday you want the best and lightest.

It just separates the BS merchants tbh.

A classic example is a local lad. Blagging he has 800 customers and laughed when I said customers at £9.

Ran into his ex missus. 800 houses turned into 80.

I think go for it BUT sell to local mates and local windys. For Christ sake don't sell on eBay.

What I wanna see is the weights.

So can someone list the weights please.

18-20
25
35
45
50

Ft poles please

redstarwindowcleaners

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2014, 09:24:36 am »
waste of time IMAO
i don't want a cheap pole,i want a great pole! You can't have great quality pole if the pole is cheap.
And the customer service is very important too.
Good luck anyway.


The product rivals anything avaliable in the uk
the cost is due to the massive margins not being added by the uk suppliers

Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2014, 09:29:48 am »
Suppliers overheads are also massive.

Ltd companies accounts are public documents. Why not look up some of your competitors? Have a look at what the ACTUAL PROFIT MARGINS are.

What you are talking about is markup. Markup and profit margins are not the same.
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Lee GLS

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2014, 09:30:11 am »
I can understand wanting to save money on pole, but the savings on a shorter everyday pole is not enough to make it worth while.

Maybe if you can save a couple of hundred on a longer 35/40 plus pole then I can why it may be worth purchasing one then.

redstarwindowcleaners

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2014, 09:36:51 am »
Your right
generally it's the longer lengths where the savings are made but saying that shorter lengths still have  considerable savings on uk prices

I'v 3 poles ordered 2 for me and one for a friend we will road test them over the next few weeks and go from there

but what others say about the products the feeling is good
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2014, 09:39:58 am »
Quote from: g j  newton
Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive

Of course you were cheaper. Where were your overheads? Rent, staff, management, insurance, taxes, light, heat, advertising, theft. Just some of the things a shop needs to account for that you didn't.
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G Griffin

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2014, 09:42:16 am »
waste of time IMAO
i don't want a cheap pole,i want a great pole! You can't have great quality pole if the pole is cheap.
And the customer service is very important too.
Good luck anyway.


The product rivals anything avaliable in the uk
the cost is due to the massive margins not being added by the uk suppliers

Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive
I know a lad that did that. He used to go to Italy, too.
But times change. It's widely available online, now, and shops have latched onto it.
You're also more likely to be selling clobber to friends and acquaintances.
Poles are different. A snapped section for someone you've never met? I want my money back?
I've got a nasty splinter from that pole? My solicitor thinks I've grounds for a claim?
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PoleKing

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2014, 09:43:21 am »
Quote from: g j  newton
Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive

Of course you were cheaper. Where were your overheads? Rent, staff, management, insurance, taxes, light, heat, advertising, theft. Just some of the things a shop needs to account for that you didn't.

And...if someone rips a jumper-just get a new one.
What if a 50' pole snaps and lands through someone's skull?
Would you be questioned?
Would you be 100% positive that your pole couldn't be at fault?
I'd bet Alex @ Gardiner and Craig @ Ionic have tested their poles themselves to within an inch if their lives.

How much are yours?
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2014, 09:44:55 am »
And that isn't counting bogus claims. There are some proper jobby jabbers about - especially on CIU.
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2014, 09:46:56 am »
Not saying you shouldn't do it, what I am saying is do it right. Business plans are easy enough especially with the help that the government dishes out for free.
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ben M

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2014, 09:49:59 am »
waste of time IMAO
IMAO?

In my Anglo Saxon opinion?

In my arrogant opinion?

Arrogant, Soupy.
He's a Frenchie ain't he.
They're all arrogant. (Where's tosh to ban a racism post)
most of them are,very true  ;)

Window Lickers

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 09:50:07 am »
Quote from: g j  newton
Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive

Of course you were cheaper. Where were your overheads? Rent, staff, management, insurance, taxes, light, heat, advertising, theft. Just some of the things a shop needs to account for that you didn't.

And...if someone rips a jumper-just get a new one.
What if a 50' pole snaps and lands through someone's skull?
Would you be questioned?
Would you be 100% positive that your pole couldn't be at fault?
I'd bet Alex @ Gardiner and Craig @ Ionic have tested their poles themselves to within an inch if their lives.

How much are yours?

No, they've just made sure they've covered every angle in the process of pole production and they're covered against accident claims. However if they've covered every angle in thee production process a case made against them isnt likely in the first place.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

PoleKing

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2014, 09:52:42 am »
Quote from: g j  newton
Back in my younger days I used to import stone island clothing  from a contact  straight out of the factory in italy my mark up was 100 %  and I still sold it for half shop retail
suppliers mark ups are massive

Of course you were cheaper. Where were your overheads? Rent, staff, management, insurance, taxes, light, heat, advertising, theft. Just some of the things a shop needs to account for that you didn't.

And...if someone rips a jumper-just get a new one.
What if a 50' pole snaps and lands through someone's skull?
Would you be questioned?
Would you be 100% positive that your pole couldn't be at fault?
I'd bet Alex @ Gardiner and Craig @ Ionic have tested their poles themselves to within an inch if their lives.

How much are yours?

No, they've just made sure they've covered every angle in the process of pole production and they're covered against accident claims. However if they've covered every angle in thee production process a case made against them isnt likely in the first place.

There's always one that gets away though isn't there...
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Soupy

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2014, 09:53:50 am »
And the jobby jabbers. Don't forget the jobby jabbers.
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redstarwindowcleaners

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Re: importing chinease poles
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2014, 09:55:27 am »
Not saying you shouldn't do it, what I am saying is do it right. Business plans are easy enough especially with the help that the government dishes out for free.

All good for a someone looking into entering this as a business but is just a few poles someone wants a cheap pole the offers there
for what I intend initially getting I could probably sell 3 fold to just family and friends etc without selling to  lads I don't know
but if the market is there and people want them I'll get more
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