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mufcglen

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Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« on: March 09, 2014, 01:46:23 pm »
Got a job coming up in town centre and the shop is just off the road but the road has double yellows, I'm not sure but I remember the gov saying they was going to relax the laws of parking in town centres to try and get people in them more ie running into a shop for a few mins but what's the deal with window cleaners who use wfp on shops with parking etc?

dannymack

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 02:13:25 pm »
I do some shops but park round the back street and use the good old pole and squeegee. Thinks its better to use squeegee on naïf shop fronts !!! Also there no water outside the main front door !!!! Ps don't take long either 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Jonny 87

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 02:34:36 pm »
I do some shops but park round the back street and use the good old pole and squeegee. Thinks its better to use squeegee on naïf shop fronts !!! Also there no water outside the main front door !!!! Ps don't take long either 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

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Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 04:07:46 pm »
the only grace that is allowed is 10mins to load and unload. Unloading water onto a window however doesn't count.. You will get a ticket..

david wood

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 05:36:18 pm »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

brynley

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 05:55:56 pm »
in my town I was told by a traffic warden I would be exempt as a working window cleaner?

jmb

  • Posts: 170
Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 07:47:39 pm »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

Do this and if questioned tell them you need the van there for obvious water reasons and if they don't allow it ask them if your council would prefer you to use a ladder and break certain  health and safety laws and endanger yourself and the public.

9 times out of 10 they will let you park as long as it's not a clear way.

PoleKing

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 07:58:09 pm »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

Do this and if questioned tell them you need the van there for obvious water reasons and if they don't allow it ask them if your council would prefer you to use a ladder and break certain  health and safety laws and endanger yourself and the public.

9 times out of 10 they will let you park as long as it's not a clear way.

What laws would be broken?

In my experience parking on yellows is all down to the individual traffic warden.
Some can be a pita.
Most see that you're only trying to do your job. Treat them with respect and be sensible and they're normally ok.
It's probably a bit if a treat for them to be treated in a civilised manner.
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Spruce

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 08:03:34 pm »
Got a job coming up in town centre and the shop is just off the road but the road has double yellows, I'm not sure but I remember the gov saying they was going to relax the laws of parking in town centres to try and get people in them more ie running into a shop for a few mins but what's the deal with window cleaners who use wfp on shops with parking etc?

I've been parkiing on double yellows for 9 years and haven't been bothered with a parking attendant yet.

I do try to talk to each one of them patrolling so most of them know the van and the job I do.

I do understand though that I should apply annually to our local council for a no cost permit that will allow me to park on double yellows, but only in the execution of my business. Each permit applies to a given reg number, so we can't use one permit for different vans on different days.

Thanks for reminding me - I need to do this.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

jmb

  • Posts: 170
Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 08:06:36 pm »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

Do this and if questioned tell them you need the van there for obvious water reasons and if they don't allow it ask them if your council would prefer you to use a ladder and break certain  health and safety laws and endanger yourself and the public.

9 times out of 10 they will let you park as long as it's not a clear way.

What laws would be broken?

In my experience parking on yellows is all down to the individual traffic warden.
Some can be a pita.
Most see that you're only trying to do your job. Treat them with respect and be sensible and they're normally ok.
It's probably a bit if a treat for them to be treated in a civilised manner.

If it is a single person working and having to use a ladder instead of wfp because of not having your van near you, then the council paid traffic warden would be asking someone to break health and safety regs.

Councils usually try to shy away when it comes to them being implicated with any kind of health and safety breach, we'll they do in bristol  :)

PoleKing

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 08:07:42 pm »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

Do this and if questioned tell them you need the van there for obvious water reasons and if they don't allow it ask them if your council would prefer you to use a ladder and break certain  health and safety laws and endanger yourself and the public.

9 times out of 10 they will let you park as long as it's not a clear way.

What laws would be broken?

In my experience parking on yellows is all down to the individual traffic warden.
Some can be a pita.
Most see that you're only trying to do your job. Treat them with respect and be sensible and they're normally ok.
It's probably a bit if a treat for them to be treated in a civilised manner.

If it is a single person working and having to use a ladder instead of wfp because of not having your van near you, then the council paid traffic warden would be asking someone to break health and safety regs.

Councils usually try to shy away when it comes to them being implicated with any kind of health and safety breach, we'll they do in bristol  :)

What regs would be broken?
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PoleKing

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 08:08:54 pm »
Got a job coming up in town centre and the shop is just off the road but the road has double yellows, I'm not sure but I remember the gov saying they was going to relax the laws of parking in town centres to try and get people in them more ie running into a shop for a few mins but what's the deal with window cleaners who use wfp on shops with parking etc?

I've been parkiing on double yellows for 9 years and haven't been bothered with a parking attendant yet.

I do try to talk to each one of them patrolling so most of them know the van and the job I do.

I do understand though that I should apply annually to out local council for a no cost permit that will allow me to park on double yellows, but only in the execution of my business. Each permit applies to a given reg number, so we can't use one permit for different vans on different days.

Thanks for reminding me - I need to do this.

Dispensations ain't free Sprucey.
(Certainly not in Nittinghamshire anyway)
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pete albion

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 10:25:19 pm »
Not any help to you but down here in Brighton window cleaners can park on double yellows. It's a old by-law  :)

CleanClear

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2014, 10:30:31 pm »


I've been parkiing on double yellows for 9 years and haven't been bothered with a parking attendant yet.

I do try to talk to each one of them patrolling so most of them know the van and the job I do.

I do understand though that I should apply annually to out local council for a no cost permit that will allow me to park on double yellows, but only in the execution of my business. Each permit applies to a given reg number, so we can't use one permit for different vans on different days.

Thanks for reminding me - I need to do this.

You have a Council that allows a permit to park on double yellow lines? I've never heard of that before .
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PoleKing

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2014, 10:34:18 pm »


I've been parkiing on double yellows for 9 years and haven't been bothered with a parking attendant yet.

I do try to talk to each one of them patrolling so most of them know the van and the job I do.

I do understand though that I should apply annually to out local council for a no cost permit that will allow me to park on double yellows, but only in the execution of my business. Each permit applies to a given reg number, so we can't use one permit for different vans on different days.

Thanks for reminding me - I need to do this.

You have a Council that allows a permit to park on double yellow lines? I've never heard of that before .

Of you've got a blue badge you can park where you bloomin' like.
In the most awkward spots. With no regard for any other road user.
Probably driving a mobility car paid for by other peoples taxes as one has never done a days work in ones life. (Certainly round my manor)
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Spruce

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 06:58:42 am »


I've been parkiing on double yellows for 9 years and haven't been bothered with a parking attendant yet.

I do try to talk to each one of them patrolling so most of them know the van and the job I do.

I do understand though that I should apply annually to out local council for a no cost permit that will allow me to park on double yellows, but only in the execution of my business. Each permit applies to a given reg number, so we can't use one permit for different vans on different days.

Thanks for reminding me - I need to do this.

You have a Council that allows a permit to park on double yellow lines? I've never heard of that before .

That's what I've been told. I haven't made enquiries about it myself which I must do.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

CF Facilities

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 07:05:23 am »
In northampton I used to have the phone number of the traffic warden office and if you called them up with your reg number they used to contact the warden and they left you alone. I once parked on double yellow all day when I was on an air conditioning job.

STEVE-UK

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 07:38:30 am »
Not any help to you but down here in Brighton window cleaners can park on double yellows. It's a old by-law  :)

We are are pretty lucky here in Brighton :)

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 07:42:43 am »
When working in London we would apply for a dispensation for a whole week over the phone. One Van, one street.

Then you had to call in, in person for the dispensation.

Then you had to call in, in person for the dispensation AND it was only valid for a day.

In all the years i worked in London, we got 2 maybe 3 tickets.

Not many people know about dispensations.

Paul Coleman

Re: Parking on double yellows in town centre while using wfp
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 07:47:36 am »
Iam normally ok as long as I keep my hose reel outside of the van even when iam cleaning inside shops

Do this and if questioned tell them you need the van there for obvious water reasons and if they don't allow it ask them if your council would prefer you to use a ladder and break certain  health and safety laws and endanger yourself and the public.

9 times out of 10 they will let you park as long as it's not a clear way.

What laws would be broken?

In my experience parking on yellows is all down to the individual traffic warden.
Some can be a pita.
Most see that you're only trying to do your job. Treat them with respect and be sensible and they're normally ok.
It's probably a bit if a treat for them to be treated in a civilised manner.

One wanted to ticket me saying "I'm only doing my job."  I said the same back to him.  He laughed and walked off.  No ticket.  A lot depends on the warden though.  I don't like that.  I reckon there should be more clarity and not on a town by town basis.