[oldman]

I would probs buy from windywasher if the price was right.

Why would you do that.
You could buy them yourself direct from China for less than he would be selling for.

[Spruce]

I've been thinking about the market potential for Windies poles.

I've looked at cj.eddie's ebay profile, the ebay supplier who has some 45 and 50' poles for sale. He has had them on the system for a few weeks and his only feedback as a supplier is in Feb 2013, and it wasn't for selling poles.

This maybe an incorrect assumption, but it doesn't look like this Rochford supplier's stock is exactly flying off the shelves to me.

I have also been looking at the spring clamp on his poles. The spring is between the jaws of the clamp, so I can't see how that would help once the pole began to wear. The Gardiner Smart clamp spring is outside the jaws on one side which does work.

[windiewasher]

These are my clamps.

[[GQC] Tim]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle, even though the smart clamps do somewhat differ.  Need to go to my van now and actually check. 

Any comments Alex?

[wfp master]

[Spruce]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle, even though the smart clamps do somewhat differ.  Need to go to my van now and actually check. 

Any comments Alex?

Alex commented on another forum that they worked differently. Personally, I can't see them working as the spring would be 'forcing' the jaws open rather than clamping down on the worn section.

[gary999]

I've never been a retailer but even with my small brain there's a few things I'd have to get right first.

1. I'd need to source my product at the cheapest price possible (and protect the details of where I got them).
2. I'd need to factor in the postage costs including taxes/import duty
3. spares availability and warranty
4. lead time and storage facilities
5. Staff? outgoing postage
6. Income tax/vat
7. profit margin
8. competition

To sell it  it would need to be different/better than the competition to ask decent prices or cheaper than the equivalent which means selling in bulk.


To be honest, just cleaning windows has a lot of appeal for me

your best post for a while

[Alex Gardiner]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle.

Any comments Alex?

It doesn't take a genius to see where the design principle for these clamps has come from  

These are the same clamps as Aquadapter's new poles (according to their current detailed photos on their website) and the poles on eBay. We have scheduled in the new year to sit down and have a session with our Patent Attorney and these clamps.

However from my examination of all examples so far it would appear that they do not have any of the unique operation features of a smart clamp. Saves me the hassle of enforcing the UK and Chinese Patent if this is the case  

Of course I will know better once my advisers have studied them in detail.

[windiewasher]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle.

Any comments Alex?

It doesn't take a genius to see where the design principle for these clamps has come from  

These are the same clamps as Aquadapter's new poles and the poles on eBay. We have scheduled in the new year to sit down and have a session with our Patent Attorney and these clamps.

However from my examination of all examples so far it would appear that they do not have any of the unique operation features of a smart clamp. Saves me the hassle of enforcing the UK and Chinese Patent if this is the case  

Of course I will know better once my advisers have studied them in detail.

hi Alex can you let me know the outcome please,I wouldn't sell them of it breaks your patent.
They were the ones the supplier uses but if it breaks your patent I will tell them im not able to use them.
thanks

[Alex Gardiner]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle.

Any comments Alex?

It doesn't take a genius to see where the design principle for these clamps has come from  

These are the same clamps as Aquadapter's new poles and the poles on eBay. We have scheduled in the new year to sit down and have a session with our Patent Attorney and these clamps.

However from my examination of all examples so far it would appear that they do not have any of the unique operation features of a smart clamp. Saves me the hassle of enforcing the UK and Chinese Patent if this is the case  

Of course I will know better once my advisers have studied them in detail.

hi Alex can you let me know the outcome please,I wouldn't sell them of it breaks your patent.
They were the ones the supplier uses but if it breaks your patent I will tell them im not able to use them.
thanks

Hi WW

I have just got your email on the subject and have replied.

[windiewasher]

Would be interesting to see how this compares to Alex Gardiner's patent on smart clamps. To me, and I could be wrong, it seems like a blatant rip-off in design principle.

Any comments Alex?

It doesn't take a genius to see where the design principle for these clamps has come from  

These are the same clamps as Aquadapter's new poles and the poles on eBay. We have scheduled in the new year to sit down and have a session with our Patent Attorney and these clamps.

However from my examination of all examples so far it would appear that they do not have any of the unique operation features of a smart clamp. Saves me the hassle of enforcing the UK and Chinese Patent if this is the case  

Of course I will know better once my advisers have studied them in detail.

hi Alex can you let me know the outcome please,I wouldn't sell them of it breaks your patent.
They were the ones the supplier uses but if it breaks your patent I will tell them im not able to use them.
thanks

Hi WW

I have just got your email on the subject and have replied.

Thanks Alex

[paul13]

hi Alex can you let me know the outcome please,I wouldn't sell them of it breaks your patent.
They were the ones the supplier uses but if it breaks your patent I will tell them im not able to use them.
thanks
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Thought you had ordered them

[Mitchellmoxo]

I would probs buy from windywasher if the price was right.

Why would you do that.
You could buy them yourself direct from China for less than he would be selling for.

Dont understand your argument at all.

Do you buy clothes? If yes.. Why dont you buy them direct from Bangledesh for cheaper?

Large percentage of things we buy are from asia so why dont you buy everything direct from there?

[kempy]

I'd say let him have a go , why everyone else worry and ready to knock him all the time . Dave Willis you seem very negative all the time about any post that could offer a alternative to your favourite supplier .
Give him a break , I'm sure he'll do his sums etc .
If he fails , I suppose windiewasher can use a different pole every day of the week.

Obviously I've imported , paid for postage & tax .
I wouldn't like to do it on a large scale , and I wouldn't ever become a supplier .
A advisor was what I tried to do

[Dave Willis]

Simply because it struck me that Windy had put himself in exactly the same position as the other pole suppliers. You in particular posted the links to buy cheap poles which means he would be instantly undercut by anyone buying direct.
See what I'm getting at?

I notice he's not gone for the clamps you prefer - I wonder why?

I have nothing against him - I don't know the guy and I wish him all the best.

[windiewasher]

Dave Willis
you have to buy 100 poles to get a discount from the supplier im getting from so I guarantee you couldnt get it cheaper,also I will pay same postage for as I would for 100.
Am I missing something know it all?

[windiewasher]

Simply because it struck me that Windy had put himself in exactly the same position as the other pole suppliers. You in particular posted the links to buy cheap poles which means he would be instantly undercut by anyone buying direct.
See what I'm getting at?

I notice he's not gone for the clamps you prefer - I wonder why?

I have nothing against him - I don't know the guy and I wish him all the best.

wonder why? With the clamps?
Actually they are the standard clamps but seeing what other clamps there is I don't want to break the patent of Alex's.

[steven 1]

Hi guys,
Just to say these poles are not good!
The adjustment on them is useless, the spring is to hard, the locknuts keep spinning when you try to adjust them. They are not a touch compared to Gardiner poles!
I have a new concept, no spring in them has this belongs to Alex.
I will not sell poles at a poor standard, so these poles I would not put my name on.

regards Steven.

[kempy]

When's yours doing out Steven -V-Lite ??

[windiewasher]

Hi guys,
Just to say these poles are not good!
The adjustment on them is useless, the spring is to hard, the locknuts keep spinning when you try to adjust them. They are not a touch compared to Gardiner poles!
I have a new concept, no spring in them has this belongs to Alex.
I will not sell poles at a poor standard, so these poles I would not put my name on.

regards Steven.

steven?
you mean the clamps are no good?
how do you know the poles are no good?